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GMcD: I have no problem with that, I will just go online and buy another diploma from University of Berkely, I always wanted a PhD in particle physics... Lets get our house in order first, before we go trudging off fixing up a junk system.... Bob

one thing though whyun...we engineers write the codes.....lets not forget that... Bob

do you report htem to the state if they are not what they say they are EddyC? Just curious...I know this seems to be a hard thing to do for us engineers.... Don't mean to upset anyone here, but lawyers are not the smartest people in the world...If we are not telling them a license is needed...

what edition of machinerys handbook heckler??? you know the edition is important to your status here...mine is the 21st....lol bob

some states require that a person giving expert testimony on engineering, no matter what the disipline or subject, be a licensed engineer, some do not. I guess I am just at a loss as to what, if anything, we can do about the B..S..BS degree. It definately attacks at the heart of our...

My ERCO pipe caliper TETKO screen mesh size gauge Cameron Hydraulic Data Book my contractors gift of a coffee travel cup (it has no handle and fits anywhere!!!) and my HP 48GX LOL Bob

patdaly, evidently this person was not a PE as he could not qualify for the exam, so that part of the process worked. I do not understand how this person got on the stand though...That part was not discussed, nor was how the person was cought. Can we assume that if the person needed a fake...

I was reading the paper yesterday and came across an article on a structural engineer that was giving expert testimony on a court case. He was investigated and it was determined that their degree was from a the University of Berkley, not in CA but in Erie, PA. Turns out it was a diploma mill...

Lets see, I worked in a glass plant and got to play with the fluid mechanics of molten glass with natural gas fired and electric furnaces, natural gas, compressed air, wash water utilities design, high volume (500,000acfm and larger) ducted air handling systems and various other goodies. I also...

IRstuff: You are right about the business schools, but it is only because we let them manage us... I have left firms when the boss became a non-engineer....It is a horrible place to have to be...fortunately, I could make a change, but I feel for those that cannot. Bob

buzzp: I too worked in both worlds, it should be the case, believe me....That is why i soapbox like I do...If I can get more people to see the light at the end of the licensure tunnel, we all would be better off for the effort.... I do agree though, extremists on both sides do seem to have...

My second and third layers of my teams are almost all PE's. Below that it is EITs. When I am designing an electrostatic precipitators or machine components for industrial process, or pump systems, I may put all PE's on the projects depending on the level of risk. When designing a treatment...

EngJW.. I would slot him in the mechanical engineering disipline...wouldn't think? Bob

haggis...if Casey was on the train, he was industry exempt...lol Bob

haggis: I agree that there would need to be some well thought out steps to get everyone licensed. With licensure comes the commitment from us engineers to end the industry exempt status. Industry would now have to employ lincesed engineers, by our decision, not theirs like it currently is...

What are we going to do with the Microsoft certified systems engineers? They are running rampent our there telling the public that they are engineers....I feel for the public, they get more confused by us every day and yet we do very little to help the situation.... Bob

RCEJD: I found your post midly offensive... "Engineers are very intelligent and analytical but why is it the profession has a way of sitting back and arguing about issues they do not bother to fully understand ..." We do understand, very clearly I might add, what the ramifications of our...

hey haggis...had a good 4th here, hope yours was good too....Back to the grind however....LOL I wanted to dig into buzzp's comments to see if he was thinking "other engineers" could consult outside of their industry exempt company.....Just a probing question....I find a lot of people are...

There are a handful of recruitment agencies that are out there that do work for you. I am the product of 2 jobs via the same agency and they assisted me in gaining substantial upward moves both times I used them. I would say that when using a recruitment agency, it only benefits you when you...

buzzp: What is your definition of "other engineers?" Bob