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    Flow Coefficient Kva (valves)

    ...Cv. Specifically, the link states that Kvs is the flow m^3/hr per 1 bar (100 kPa) pressure difference. Flow can be calcualated as, m^3/hr = kvs * sqrt(dP) where dP is the pressure difference in bar. Are there any units for your Kvs values? I have also seen the equation written as...
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    Use of Manning equation when a pipe runs full

    BigInch: Thanks for the link. I downloaded the spreadsheet and am looking at it. dicksewrrat: I have to double check, but I thought the culvert was corrugated steel pipe. The Ohio Dept of Transportation (ODOT) culvert design manual suggests n=.024 for 24" type A corrugated steel pipe. The...
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    Use of Manning equation when a pipe runs full

    ...the culvert pipe runs full. I applied the Bernoulli equation and Manning’s equation and got similar results: BERNOULLI Volumetric flow = q = A*sqrt(2*g*h/K) A = (21/12)^2*pi/4 = 2.4 ft^2 K = 1 + fL/D + Kentrance + Kexit = 1+ .02*120/(21/12) + 0.5 + 1.0 = 3.9 h = water level to pipe...
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    Use of Manning equation when a pipe runs full

    Thank you.
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    Use of Manning equation when a pipe runs full

    Can the Manning equation be used for case where a pipe is running full of water? For example, in open channel flow where the channel flow runs through a culvert pipe, if the conditions are such that the culvert pipe is running full, can the Manning equation still be used? Are there any...
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    Heat Flow to ground

    A model presented at the following web site: http://soilphysics.okstate.edu/toolkit/temperature/index0.html will show the soil temperature variation as a function of depth. According to the model, the soil temperature is essentially constant beyond depths of 10 feet at a value equal to the...
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    Cause of water hammer in a trap header?

    kirsner, Yes, the waterhammer occurs following pump initiation. The system operator tried a new procedure that involved throttling of a flow control valve to reduce the pumped flow rate. The pumped flow was reduced to 170 gpm into the 8” trap header. Even with this procedure in place, strong...
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    Hammer in Condensate System

    hndler, Yes it is possible that condensation of steam on the colder water will cause a significant waterhammer event. There is a long and well documented history of condensation-induced waterhammer events. Although there are several classifications of condensation-induced waterhamemr events...
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    Cause of water hammer in a trap header?

    Katmar, Based on what you said, the following scenario may be the source of steam. Condensate from the steam traps flows into the trap header because the steam line is at a higher pressure than the trap header. Presumably, the condensate is at the saturation temperature of the higher pressure...
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    Cause of water hammer in a trap header?

    25362, Thank you for the web site links. They have been very helpful. Tremolo
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    Cause of water hammer in a trap header?

    To all: Here’s an update on our situation. Unfortunately, during the last outage, the tests we had planned could not be performed. We were going to take temperature measurements along the pipe to see if there were any hot areas which could correspond to saturated fluid conditions. However...
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    Hammer in Condensate System

    Katmar, Unfortunately, during the last outage, the tests we had planned could not be performed. We were going to take temperature measurements along the pipe to see if there were any hot areas which could correspond to saturated fluid conditions. However, this would have required the removal...
  13. Tremolo

    Hammer in Condensate System

    hndler, Your problem sounds similar to one we are having. See thread378-104974 for more details. Tremolo
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    Temperature Increase in Pipeline

    gator1991, I performed a heat transfer calculation using 2.5 W/m2/C as suggested by 25362. My result: a heat flux of 13.8 W/m2 (nearly identical to 25362), or 16.8 W/m (17.5 Btu/hr/ft; 1048 Btu/hr over the 60 foot pipe length). So, over the length of the 60 ft pipe, there would very little...
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    heat transfer coefficient - backwards

    heaterguy, Natural convection has a heating/cooling dependence which itself is dependent on the orientation of the metal surface. I believe I can give you an answer if you can tell me whether the heater surface is vertical or horizontal. Same for the metal block (or perhaps the block has a...
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    heat transfer coefficient - backwards

    heaterguy, Good question. Generally, the heat transfer coefficient will be different whether the metal is being heated or cooled. To illustrate this dependence, consider one of the most well-known correlations for heat transfer: the Dittus-Boelter equation. This equation is: hd/k =...
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    Underground Piping Software

    gator1991, We have developed pipe flow software that will calculate the pipe and fluid temperatures along the length of the pipe for either steady state or transient flows. The software couples transient fluid flow equations and pipe wall transient conduction/convection models. So we can...
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    Convert from Mass Flow Rate to Volum Flow Rate?

    Leave it to a bunch of engineers to take a simple question and make it complicated. If you look at Alph's answer, you’ll notice that no additional information was required beyond Monica's initial question. TREMOLO
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    Pipe Forces due to Flow

    ...temporary force imbalance due to transient flow. Typically, for steady state flow, the force acting on a 90-degree elbow can be characterized as w*u, where w is the mass flow rate and u is the fluid velocity. Consider, for example, that you have a straight pipe segment with a 90-degree...
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    How Much do Reactors Weigh?

    SparWeb, The 90 kW/kg is based on fuel weight, only. The efficiencies are based on the thermodynamic cycle and safety margin. TREMOLO.

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