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  1. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    @lexpartie, there is no friction in sand? Just read the pipe people paper as you called it, it's based on American Standards etc.
  2. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    Friction doesn't occur only if the two solids/surfaces slide, it occurs also when two surfaces try to move (they are in balance due to the friction)
  3. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    @lexpatrie I asked about a specific tank as in the image shown, not in general, so I was surprised you mentioned shotcrete etc. But thank you for the additional info. Freeboard details (level) are specified by a civil/hydrology engineer, at least in my country. Seems you didn't read all the...
  4. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    You nailed it, thank you. Marko
  5. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    @lexpatrie thanks for this. Not sure about the shotcrete comment, here the case is wide excavation and in-situ shuttered concrete wals, so that shouldn't be a problem. About the tank being empty during floods is certainly questionable, I will have a look and try to find out how much water is...
  6. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    Yes, that is all correct, had no senior engineers here to give me valuable advice on this topics so thank you for sharing this with me. Sounds fair saying there is no friction in case of extended foundation (except along the thickness of the foundation), however the failure surface is going to...
  7. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    About the weight of the soil which is acting on top of the footing, in calculations I'm using uplift force as: H x B x L x gama(w), where H - depth measured from the level of ground water to the bottom of founds, B - foundation width L - foundation length gama(w) - water specific weight...
  8. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    WesternJeb, thanks for this, and what about the friction forces, did you consider it?
  9. Eng.nmarko

    Retention tank uplift (buoyancy)

    Hi guys, I'm having a storm water retention tank which is 4.85 m deep in the ground, it is in a flood area, therefore ground water is considered full depth of the tank, base is about 51x21 m. It is open, no top slab, as a pool. Bottom slab is 0.6 m deep, walls are 0.3 m. My question is if I use...

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