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  1. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    NG2020 said: "I've found a cabinet hinge in our kitchen that's a 6 bar linkage, which allows 170 deg rotation and some outwards translation. It's a real beauty. Made by blum, unsure of p/n. Doors are about .5" thk." I have seen that type of hinge. Not common on household cabinets. They are an...
  2. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    3DDave said: "There are many hinge designs that won't allow the door to pry the hinge loose from the frame. This isn't one of them." I don't know if there are many concealed face-front hinges that would work. But there are a few. You have alluded to the real problem. If the doors would open 170...
  3. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    Tomfh said: "Tension in wire roughly 40lbs. Load on hinge 20 lbs. Your 800lbs load (or whatever it is) is why it’s easy to pry off a cabinet door. Very short lever arm." Exactly the problem I am trying to resolve. So if those numbers are correct, the restraint screws would see a pull of 40lbs...
  4. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    Irstuff said: "Huh, you're worried about a single screw getting pried out, and your solution is to use single screws for a restraint? It seems to me that if you are that concerned, you might consider replacing those hinges with stronger ones" I don't have a solution yet and you don't seem to...
  5. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    rb1957 - This is in part why I asked first about the load diagram and the forces on the hinge. Intuition tells me that without that wire stay, it would be much easier to pry the hinge off by pushing on the edge of the door. The wire prevents the door hinge from getting to it's limiting position...
  6. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    rb1957 - Agree that the wire restraints are not elegant. And I wouldn't use them. But it seems many do. (see picture below) PhamENG and rb1957. There are restrictor clips that fit some hinges. But they are only meant to reduce door opening angle so there is no impact with walls etc. They are...
  7. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    You can make fun of my concern, but they sell thousands of restraints of different types for just this type of use. The face front verticals on our cabinet are particularly vulnerable. They are a soft wood, just 0.75"x1.5". And unlike the clip-top Euro type hinges used on many kitchen cabinets...
  8. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    The diagram is a plan view - or bird's eye view if you like. Added pic below. What I am interested in, is the difference in load on the single mounting screw with and without the wire restraint. And also, the value of force on the wire mounting screws if the restraint is used. The case...
  9. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    Where did the 30 in your formula come from? When you say reversal of load at hinge (C). Would that then see an upward force of 10lb at the hinge? Reason? The doors are at low level and vulnerable to someone purposely or accidentally pushing the door beyond 105deg where the hinges are at their...
  10. MBGraham

    load on cabinet hinges

    We have new cabinet doors. They are quite wide and somewhat vulnerable. I am thinking about adding a brace to limit the opening to 90deg (hinges go to 105deg. It's been a long time since I did any structural engineering! What I would like to see, is a load diagram for situation shown in...
  11. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    Will, One of the cars I have is an 85 Mercedes. It has what are commonly called Bundt wheels (looks like a German cake!) These were first introduced in 1969. They are bullet proof. Never a problem with corrosion. However, these were forged aluminum alloy. Other later alloy wheels were often...
  12. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    Just to conclude. Painted the rims today with Moeller Honda Oyster silver engine paint. I have new aftermarket rims on car, so these will go into storage until needed. https://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=b95d3ea3-2f0e-42de-b7c5-282e8589d7b7&file=rims_finish_coat.JPG
  13. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    I have completed 2nd to last step. Coated interior of rims with zinc phosphate primer. I chose a Moeller marine product that is made to be used on outdrives and outboards. There is a similar product by Tempo, but it was not available locally. I compared the Moeller with the Rust-Oleum self...
  14. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    They will ship - at a cost! Same is available from aircraftspruce in Canada. Needs an etching solution first. Adds to cost! Then, based on this, it would still need to be overcoated. I only need to cover about 5sq.ft, so even although quantities are small, they are also too big :) Q: Can...
  15. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    Thanks swall, I will likely do just that or a start. I do have 6 rims, two of which were spare tires and have never been used. I will coat the other 4 with zinc phosphate. If I do overcoat the primer, it will just be a very thin coat, more for appearance than anything. If I had access to a...
  16. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    Thanks Swall, The work I am doing is on the inside of the rim through the bead area. There had been some corrosion and rim leakage. The outside of the rims are still cosmetically excellent, so a shame to abandon them. I did buy aftermarket rims, so no urgent need for the originals unless the new...
  17. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    Yes, doing it myself. Any coating would need to be available retail in Canada. Marine (and other) stores have zinc phosphate primer for use on underwater aluminum stern-drives and other aluminum surfaces. including the Temp one I mentioned earlier. This one I can get from local store...
  18. MBGraham

    Coat/Paint aluminum alloy rims - or not?

    The alloy wheels on our '98 Mercedes had rims leaks. Cause was corrosion in a few spots in bead area. Originally rims were coated with some sort of paint that sanded easily but was well adhered. My first effort was to sand out the corrosion, roughen the surface and apply a 1-part polyurethane...
  19. MBGraham

    aluminum trailer hitch

    Different subject, But when we mount bikes on our bike rack, they obscure visibility of licence plates. On SUVs, the plates are usually up quite high these days s get blocked. In Europe, some have have plate holders built into the bike racks. Apparently they get a different plate for the bike...
  20. MBGraham

    aluminum trailer hitch

    If you want a good looking hitch, one of these Euro hitches may be just the ticket :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUvSKIyTtuA

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