3/8" Plate Design 5

[MaxMedic]

I am trying to figure out if the 3/8" plate can handle the moment and deflection from the weight of the brick on the angle that is welded to the plate. I do not know how to approach this.

The plate and bolts are spaced at 16", I already have factored the spacing into the loading from the brick.

 

[KootK]

All in all I still very much dislike this detail.

Agreed. While I was out walking my dog I was thinking to myself "just how much effort do I want to sink into defending a concept which I don't fundamentally care for?". Not much really.

I have a question of my own on this. A few folks have suggested a true shelf angle which would, presumably, be paired up with true loose lintels a few brick courses below. I love it structurally but is that really aesthetically viable? I have thought that having that much relieving steel in close proximity would kind of turn the thing into a hot mess appearance wise.

 

[phamENG]

a true shelf angle which would, presumably, be paired up with true loose lintels a few brick courses below

That's how I usually see it done. With the nifty lipped bricks that sit on the angle but also hang over the edge to conceal it, it's almost a non-issue appearance-wise. And the loose lintel can usually be 1/4" steel, so it fits within a standard bed joint. The lintel essentially disappears. The shelf angle/relief angle/whatever your name of choice is gets a slightly larger joint to accommodate the movement in the brick and gets filled with a compressible filler, backer rod, and color matched sealant. Since they rarely occur less than 30 feet off the ground, you have to really look for it to see it. Unless, of course, it's improperly detailed or constructed. Then you get all sorts of issues and the joint opens up like a festering wound that nobody can look away from.