Continue to Site

Eng-Tips is the largest engineering community on the Internet

Intelligent Work Forums for Engineering Professionals

  • Congratulations KootK on being selected by the Eng-Tips community for having the most helpful posts in the forums last week. Way to Go!

555 duty cycle modulator 1

Status
Not open for further replies.

serbar

Automotive
Oct 1, 2012
37
Hi.

Wanted to build a circuit with a NE555 that provides modulated PWM.

After some research I found that in astable mode with a diode in paralel with the discharge resistance of the capacitor i can do this.

I made the circuit and i can modulate PWM (16-88% Duty cycle). My problem is the calculations i did first don t match with the real world values, and i would like to know why.

Hope some one explain to me why...

Ok i will try to post and explain what i did step by step.


1. My goals with the circuit:

Test control vacuum electrovalves, this ones work with control signal of more or less 300 Hz frequency PWM (variable duty cycle of course) and 12 V.


2. Calculations i made:

If I want more or less 300 HZ freq i will try to calculate R1 and R2 (see atached file of hand made circuit) based on this and on the duty cycle i want every time:

Frequency expression based on my calculations:

f=1/( ln2*R2*C + R1*C*ln[(0.66*Vcc-Vdiode)/(0.33Vcc-Vdiode)] )

For my aplication the fixed values are:

f=300Hz
Vcc=5 V
Capacitor capacitance C= 47 uF
Vdiode=0.7 V

Duty cycle expression arranged in function of R2/R1 ratio:

R2/R1 = ((1-DC)/DC)*ln[(0.66*Vcc-Vdiode)/(0.33Vcc-Vdiode)]

For my aplication the DC fixed values i want are:

DC
0,99
0,85
0,8
0,75
0,7
0,65
0,6
0,55
0,5
0,45
0,4
0,35
0,3
0,25
0,2
0,15

Vcc=5 VVdiode=0.7 V

Now for every different duty cycle value, i have a different R2/R1 ratio, combining the DC equation and the frequency equation i have two equations with two variables for each DC value, so i can calculate R1 and R2 for every DC value i want and 300 HZ frequency right? At least on my Excel sheet.

3. Real World conclusions:

The R1 and R2 resistance values calculated don t match the DC values i calculated, and the frequency changes as i change the value of R1 and R2 (both 470 ohm pot).

Why this happen? What am i doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.

 
Replies continue below

Recommended for you

Nonetheless, there are bipolar transistors that can do the job:
Vce.sat=0.135V at Ic=6A

TTFN
faq731-376
7ofakss
 
Yes, even the venerable 2N3055 will get you to less than .2V satyration at 1A. I use the 10X rule, 1A use needs a 10A device. I do suspect that BC???? transistor will not be able to drive it. Use the 2N2222 for the driver,
 
Don t know if i have to create a new tread for this, if yes tell me please.

My question is:

Just for curiosity i want to know the power dissipated by the elctrovalve. So i need to know current and Voltage. I searched in some websites for calculations of a mean voltage and current in PWM drived devices.

I found this formula:


Is this right? if now i can i calculate a mean voltage and currente in PWM? Thanks.
 
The voltage should remain constant, the current will change. It is just a solenoid. Why does it matter if you are not driving it with exceptional voltage.

I just wanted to add that unless you use a base-emitter resistor on the driver transistor you don't get the specs you think. Of course that also sucks away drive current.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Part and Inventory Search

Sponsor