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abreviation question on P&ID 1

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wydim

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May 29, 2018
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what is the meaning of W/E, A/S, and E/S on this P&ID
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Your best bet is to find the lead sheet that goes with this drawing because it's not always the case that these designations are standardized.
 
I would say a/s is air supply and e/s is electrical supply.

But w/e has me stumped. Weather enclosure??

Is this somewhere very hot or very cold?[pre][/pre]

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Hello !
thank you both for your answers.
jari001, I don't have such title page or cover page.
LittleInch, 'air supply' and 'electrical supply' 100% makes sense, thanks !! for w/e = 'weather enclosure' not so much because the abbraviation appears for pumps/instruments/valves and tank nozzles even when inside (ambient temp around 20°c). I'll keep searching and waiting for subsequent replies maybe !

regards,
Dimitri
 
Hello Horacio,
thank you for your reply. The website you provided I also found and it is very thorough but I couldn't find 'W/E'.

thank you!
 
since the "w/e" label is next to instrument and valves and no pipe data is given, this must be a preliminary P&ID.

the w/ - with ? could it possibly be with electric heat trace.
 
Waterproof enclosure?

Actually the wireless idea might be a good one.

It's not actually on the valve itself, it's on the valve position indicator.

But the symbols are quite strange anyway. Some instruments have a strange squarred off bottom corner and some transmitters don't have square boxes around them so it doesn't follow normal ISA rules.

You have control valves with no signal coming into them but an air supply, so this drawing looks either half finished or drawn to different rules.

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another example from another page : this time it's a MIBC (Methyl Isobutyl Carbinol) tank (ULC S601 certified). installed outside (-50°C to 40°C). It's almost on every nozzle/instrument/valve.
another diesel tank is identical

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'waterproof enclosure' makes sense, but it seems to me a very complicated way to specify this on every single item (I have 20 pages of P&ID). they could've just wrote it in the notes. I'm still not convinced.
It's not W/electrical heat trace either.

it is indeed a preliminary P&ID

Someone suggested it means With/Equipment , i.e. installed on equipement as opposed to 'shipped separately'

thanks all for your help. I have asked for clarification to the buyer.

regards,
Dim
 
With Equipment is ok for some elements, but I agree, very odd that it is on virtually all the instruments or relief valves. Doesn't make sense on some of the isolated Pressure indicators though.

I'm still intrigued by the strange squared off circle drawing.

but -50 is rather cold.....

When you find out please come back and tell us.

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Question: What is the meaning of the letters outside the circular symbols on the P&ID? (A/S or W/E) ?
Response : A/S means pneumatic actuator requiring air supply and W/E means device to be supplied as part of associated package.


see.... I told you it was EXTRA 'ordinary'

what a crappy abreviation...

You can now return to the important things in your life :)

Dimitri
 
Wow... I'd have never guessed.

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-Dik
 
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