Anyone own a Prima?

[laserman16]

Does anyone use or own a prima laser. I have been hearing a lot of claims by them that seem a little unobtainable or at the least stretched.

When you look on the web site all pic's show thin gauge mat'l in their demo's and I'd like to know what the real feeds rates are in true processing. Any feedrates on thicker gauge would be appreciated.

I know from fact that the 1000 hole deal in under a minute makes the holes oblong so I am curious how there feed rates affect other thicknesses.

Thanks.

 

[aws04]

I spent some time recently at a show with a prima 4kw.
I asked them to demo it cutting 16 & 20mm mild steel at about 800mm /min which it performed well although I did notice a stack of parts that were still warm they cut prior to my apointment.A true test would have been to set up from scatch while I was there.Also the plate came with the machine from the factory and was raex or laser grade which really is a lot easier to cut.About the only thing I don't like about the machine is that you don't get a graphic picture of the part your'e cutting at the controller.
We have Bystronic Byspeed with a 4.4kw that has very reliable over the 3 years with no actual down time bar a few intermitent bugs/faults. We cut can cut up to 16 & 20mm mild steel but find the 20mm quite hard to cut & not consistant probably due to the fact we don't have laser grade plate here.Not sure about Prima Quoted feed rates,Bystronic's are between 0-10% too high to run stree free better drop the rate a bit and keep the machine running.Amada tend to run larger nozzles & use lots more gas but have quite high feed rates so hard to compare although they are adressing this in their later models.
Probably more important is who is going to support & repair it.
Find a many existing users (not just the happy ones the supplier gives you) and see how quick they get it fixed when it is playing up.

Steve