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Arc Suppression for large discharge

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moregas

Electrical
Mar 30, 2010
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Hi,
I was thinking to build arc suppression circuit, one for each of the three contacts, for a three phase motor contactor. I was thinking of a RC circuit. The motor (Refrigerant compressor) information, guessing, is about- 20 H.P., 480 ACV, starting current is three or four times running current, and current changes with load.
Please give me your thoughts on this idea. One or two seconds, RC delay should be ok? Also need some good formulas for capacitor and resistor sizes. Thank you.

moregas
 
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On the other hand, an over sized starter from Allen Bradley or Square D may solve your problems.

Bill
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