Assmebly features ???

[MagnusA]

Hi everyone,

I have made an assembly. In this assembly I want to make some holes. It is no problem to make the holes. But I just want the holes to appear just in the assembly and not in the parts itself. In ProE when I made a hole in the assembly I made a hole just in the assembly. The part itself was not changed as it is in CATIA v5.

Is this a setting-problems?

I am running CATIA v5r12sp7.

 

[Akesson]

Hi!

I havn't found any solution to this problem either. I'm an old ProE user so I understand what functionality you're looking for. I told Dassault about this issue in R8 but still nothing (that I know of) has happend.

The awnser I got then was that Catia V5 CATProduct file can't handle geometry. I guess that explains why you're not able to create holes, planes, points etc in the CATProduct.

Hope someone have more input/solutions to this issue....

/Akesson

 

[catiajim]

Only work-around that we have found is to use some intermediary, fake part numbers.

Create your Detail Part without the holes.
Create a new "fake part"
Copy/Paste as result with link from the Detail Part to the Fake Part
Assembly the Fake Part to your product.

Repeat as necessary for other instances of the Detail Part with different configurations.

Kind of messy, especially if you are using a vPDM (like VPM or LCA) and you want your product structure to match your e-bom structure.

 

[Akesson]

I understand the "fake part" methodology and use it myself in some cases. And as you say, the PDM system is the problem.

Do you use "fake parts" when you have flexible parts (springs, hoses etc) as well (one mounted and one non-mounted)?

 

[catiajim]

Yep. We are using the Fake Part methodology for both flexible parts and for our Installation level Fastener definition - these are simply points and lines that represent Rivets that are not drilled until installation.

We have given the parts an "intelligent" part number that will identify it to the ERP as NON-BOM (that is, when we ever get VPM hooked up to our ERP system).

 

[solid7]

This seems to be the general concensus. I've seen this done in both automotive and marine industries.

It really makes a hell of a mess in the PDM, though.

I don't know how other people work, but the companies that I have seen who have just started using a PDM, especially SmarTeam, are not very disciplined in using it, anyway. This will present you with some nice special challenges. Hopefully you have a department with a gestapo like release process. Funny - I've never thought I'd appreciate that sort of thing, before I met SmarTeam and V5.

Good luck.




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[MagnusA]

I think I have to use the "fake part" system as you other does. I hope Dassault will solve this in future releases. Does anyone know if Dassault is working for a solution for this problem?

 

[solid7]

*Generally* speaking, when you have a function that's been in demand, basically since day one, and you haven't implemented it by R15, that's usually construed to be a NO.

I don't specifically about this, but it certainly does not appear to be in development.




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