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AWWA TANK DESIGN

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ENGJP22

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Nov 2, 2020
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Hi guys, I hope you are okay, I have a question, Im designing a steel tank per AWWA, there is
an equation to calculate de compression stress in the shell, they are using the overturning moment
and the seismic vertical component, but I wonder why in the portion corresponding to the overturning moment they are dividing the moment by the Area, do you know why?

Thanks in advance
 
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The plastic section modulus of a thin walled circle is pi*r^2*thickness. So moment / area of the circle would be the compression / unit length of wall at with a plastic stress distribution.
 
Actually, it's elastic stress distribution in a thin-wall cylinder, as in beams, sigma = Mc/I = MR/(pi*R^3*t) = M/(pi*R^2)/t. The relationship to area of the circle is just more or less accidental. The 1.273 is 4/pi.
 
is it ok to take the Moment and divide it by the diameter of the thin wall cylinder and assume that a half o the cilynder is in compression and the other half in tension by dividing that couple force by one half of the perimeter of the circle?
 
Just use the equation as written. The equation assumes a linear variation of bending stress across the diameter, not sure exactly what your process would give.
 

The answer is No!!!! with your approach , you will calculate less than the stress developing and unsafe..

-This formula is used for calculation of maximum shell compression when the tank is self anchored .
- the first term in the parenthesis wt( 1+ 0.4Av ) is the weight of the tank shell and portion of the roof reacting on the shell, for 1.0 meter of perimeter

- the second term is essentially M/ W ( W is section modulus of thin cylindrical shell W= (π*D^2)/4

- the last term ( 1/1000ts) is to find stress for line load with 1.0 m length


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