zrck99
Structural
- Dec 19, 2014
- 82
Hi all,
The attached pdf shows a cantilevered beam with both positive moment and negative moment on the backspan and all negative moment on the cantilever. The beam is prevented from translation/rotation at each support and has midspan bracing in the backspan. The slab above will provide bracing at the top flange of the backspan and cantilever but the bottom flange of the cantilever is unbraced across its full length. The bottom of the page shows some beam capacities with varying unbraced lengths.
I'll break this up into a couple different questions:
I've read through previous posts discussing cantilever unbraced length. Based on those previous conversations it seems like the general consensus is that cantilever unbraced length can be set equal to the length of the cantilever if the end of the cantilever is restrained at both flanges (or maybe just at the tension flange?) What are peoples thoughts here? In my case, the slab should brace the tension flange from rotation but the compression flange will be unbraced. In this exact case, if the cantilever Lb = 11ft, a W16x31 will have enough capacity. If we need to model this as Lb = 2* 11ft = 22ft then the capacity of a W16x31 quickly drops off to where the 32.1 k-ft capacity < 45.98 k-ft demand. As a separate side note, if the moment magnitudes stay the same but are reversed, does that change the Lb of the cantilever because now the tension flange is unbraced across its full length?
For the backspan, because it has both positive and negative moment, is the correct method to check each moment vs its respective unbraced length? so for the max positive moment = 34.14 k-ft we would want to compare vs the fully braced W16x31 capacity (because the slab is attached at 2'-0" o.c. so fully braced) and then in a separate check, compare the -45.98 k-ft moment vs the W16x31 capacity with Lb = 12' (since we are braced at midspan)? I recognize that by inspection its obvious that the higher negative moment with a higher unbraced length will control, I'm more just trying to make sure I'm on the right track for how to check each respective part.
Thanks in advance for any responses. I appreciate it.
The attached pdf shows a cantilevered beam with both positive moment and negative moment on the backspan and all negative moment on the cantilever. The beam is prevented from translation/rotation at each support and has midspan bracing in the backspan. The slab above will provide bracing at the top flange of the backspan and cantilever but the bottom flange of the cantilever is unbraced across its full length. The bottom of the page shows some beam capacities with varying unbraced lengths.
I'll break this up into a couple different questions:
I've read through previous posts discussing cantilever unbraced length. Based on those previous conversations it seems like the general consensus is that cantilever unbraced length can be set equal to the length of the cantilever if the end of the cantilever is restrained at both flanges (or maybe just at the tension flange?) What are peoples thoughts here? In my case, the slab should brace the tension flange from rotation but the compression flange will be unbraced. In this exact case, if the cantilever Lb = 11ft, a W16x31 will have enough capacity. If we need to model this as Lb = 2* 11ft = 22ft then the capacity of a W16x31 quickly drops off to where the 32.1 k-ft capacity < 45.98 k-ft demand. As a separate side note, if the moment magnitudes stay the same but are reversed, does that change the Lb of the cantilever because now the tension flange is unbraced across its full length?
For the backspan, because it has both positive and negative moment, is the correct method to check each moment vs its respective unbraced length? so for the max positive moment = 34.14 k-ft we would want to compare vs the fully braced W16x31 capacity (because the slab is attached at 2'-0" o.c. so fully braced) and then in a separate check, compare the -45.98 k-ft moment vs the W16x31 capacity with Lb = 12' (since we are braced at midspan)? I recognize that by inspection its obvious that the higher negative moment with a higher unbraced length will control, I'm more just trying to make sure I'm on the right track for how to check each respective part.
Thanks in advance for any responses. I appreciate it.