My question is concening bend radius vs die opening. Is it possible to use one nose radius with a variety of die openings to achieve different inside bend radii? For example, if I have a 3/16" nose radius could I get a 3/8" radius for 3/8" material, 1/4" radius for 1/4" material, and so on, just by varying the bottom die opening?
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bend radius vs bottom die opening for press brakes
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ornerynorsk
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In practical use, die opening does not affect the radius as much as the nose radius of the punch, but die opening does affect tonnage.
DerrickWayne
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Basically, the press brake process is a forming process, where you form the radius with the top die set. The bottom die set is used to control the angle of the form by supporting the material during the forming process. You will need a nose radius for each bend you want to acheive.
Generally, the radius is controlled by the radius of the punch, rather than the die width, but the die width is an important factor. Not only does it affect tonnage, but by using larger die widths, the radius is increased. At one company we used 8 times the material thickness to find the die opening, and at another company we used 6 times the material thickness (different company standards). Using the same radius punch, the smaller die opening produced a tighter radius.
IT IS possible however to use one nose radius to achieve different inside bend radii if you do not have the correct tooling for a project. By adding a "cap" or "wrap" to the punch, you can increase the radii, however the thickness of the cap should generally be equal to or thicker than the material being formed.
Note: by a cap, I mean forming a piece of sheet metal into a "V" shape to fit snuggly over the punch, with the flanges having a bend in them to grip the punch by friction, and also a little bit of duct tape to hold it on.
We have used this on lighter gauges, up to 10 gauge.
For example, you have a 1/8" punch, and you are forming 16 ga. mild steel and you need an inside radius of 1/4". By making a cap of 11 ga. mild steel and put it on the 1/8" punch, you now have a punch that will form an inside radius of 1/4" to 5/32". (.125 + .120 = .245)
The bottom die width will have to be increased accordingly.
Flores
IT IS possible however to use one nose radius to achieve different inside bend radii if you do not have the correct tooling for a project. By adding a "cap" or "wrap" to the punch, you can increase the radii, however the thickness of the cap should generally be equal to or thicker than the material being formed.
Note: by a cap, I mean forming a piece of sheet metal into a "V" shape to fit snuggly over the punch, with the flanges having a bend in them to grip the punch by friction, and also a little bit of duct tape to hold it on.
We have used this on lighter gauges, up to 10 gauge.
For example, you have a 1/8" punch, and you are forming 16 ga. mild steel and you need an inside radius of 1/4". By making a cap of 11 ga. mild steel and put it on the 1/8" punch, you now have a punch that will form an inside radius of 1/4" to 5/32". (.125 + .120 = .245)
The bottom die width will have to be increased accordingly.
Flores
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