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Johndesign123

Mechanical
Apr 7, 2015
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Hello Guys,
I am Young designer. This is my first project i am working in a small company that's why i don't have design manager. I am alone here. Our MD said we want to design a simple and cost effective Top loading case packer . But i don't have no ides about that. I want to refer a good case packer. Could any one help me Which case packer manufacture having good machine and good design?.

Thanks
John
 
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Like any other project, you start with research.
Google the search terms, look at images, be careful not to copy any patented information.

Is this the industry that your company is in? If so, then you should have some prior art sitting somewhere in a filing cabinet or a network folder. Review past designs and adapt them to meet your requirements.

--Scott
www.wertel.pro
 
Johndesign123:
Your company deserves to fail, and unfortunately you are stuck in the middle of the mess they are making. If your management assumes they can break into that type of machine design business, with a ‘young designer’ or even a new engineering grad as their primary engineering ability, without any real engineering experience or judgement; without any prior designs to learn from or improve upon; and without a real engineering department manager with the requisite background; I certainly don’t want to be an investor. If you try to tackle this design work on your own, you will more than likely end up being the fall-guy when things don’t work out. I find it hard to believe that companies think they can engineer a fairly sophisticated product or machine without any real experience with that product, or without some real engineering ability on staff. Although, given the questions we see here on E-Tips, it would seem that that is the route many companies are taking to meet their engineering needs.

‘You are a young designer,’ so you say. What engineering education have you had which qualifies you to do this kind of design? I have worked with a number of drafters/designers who I would trust with engineering assignments which I would not give to a new engineering grad or even a young engineer with several years of experience. They didn’t start out at that level of knowledge and experience, it took years of working with more experienced people to get to that later level. You should not be expected to shoulder the company’s engineering needs just because they provided you with a computer and some software. You should be allowed to learn under the guidance of an experienced boss or mentor, or they don’t really care about your development. They are just trying to use you to do the impossible, and they’ll blame you too. You have asked three very general and basic questions, in quick succession, all apparently pertaining to the same general problem, and your level of inexperience is really showing. Your are not going to answer your questions with one text book, or a little help from the internet, at E-Tips. You need to go to your management and tell them that you can’t do this work on your own. They need to bring in some experienced engineering to manage this project.
 
The phrase "Form follows function" by Frank Lloyd Wright is good place to start.
Break the process down into little parts then address them one by one.
Look at if a simple XYZ frame work will due, and then build from there.
What are you going to use to move the items, air, hydraulics, linear motors....
Is it going to be automated or is it just to assist handling the weight?
A pencil, graph paper, and a good eraser helps get the juices flowing too.
 
Johndesign123,

You are at the stage of your career where it is nice to have an experienced engineer/designer look over your shoulder and provide advice. Learning your job by trial and error will involve a lot of errors. This will affect your reputation.

--
JHG
 
Well, step one is define what a Top loading case packer is. What does it do? What are you packing into what type of case?
 
As someone in the business of desiging case packers I would highly reccomend you explore the options of purtchasing a quality machine from a packaging OEM. There is more to the design of this type of equipment than you would think.
 
Johndesign123 said:
.....Our MD said we want to design a simple and cost effective Top loading case packer....

Ask your manager what the definition of "simple and cost effective" implies.

While you're young and inexperienced, I hope you understand that your company will likely have to pay for any repair/replacement of this equipment under warranty, as well as being liable for any injury or damage resulting from operation of this machinery. Not the best situation to learn about machine design on your own.
 
If you watch Mythbusters you know "Failure is always an option".
What will define your future is how you deal with failure.
Do you embrace it and learn from it or will you give up.
If it wasn't for people willing to fail and learn we'd still be sitting in caves, cold and wet; not sending Rovers to Mars.
 
As stated above, research is the key. Also study the competition and do reverse engineering if possible. Also large city which have several schools and colleges/universities in the area may have libraries stocked with books on mechanical designs.
 
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