California Dreaming No More

[Garbage1]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/09/susan_crabtree_fires_obliterate_emissions_gains_from_californias_green_policies.html

 

[TugboatEng]

This is what happens when a state blows all of its money fighting climate change (high speed rail, eg) instead of building infrastructure to withstand the historical climate.

 

[Sym P. le]

Ha Ha Ha!!! Here we have an expert on fires only to find out it's a hit piece on Deomcrats!, Deomcrats!, Deomcrats!, Deomcrats!, Deomcrats!, .....

It's difficult to take the news item seriously, though I wonder what man made schemes could counter these conditions and how much they would cost. Oh right, Taxes!, Taxes!, Taxes!, Taxes!, Taxes!, .....

 

[Just Some Nerd]

Can you all at least *pretend* to make this thread engineering related?

 

[Sym P. le]

Yes, what man made "schemes" can stop these infernos? They are on a massive scale.

 

[TugboatEng]

Forest management, controlled burns, water storage, new infrastructure,

California is all about distributed energy right now. Why not have distributed water storage. Every house in high risk regions must have 2000 gallons of stored water on site with some type of connection to an automated fire fighting grid. Houses that border the open space should get deluge systems that are fed by the distributed storage network. Be goal being to prevent that wildfire to urban fire jump.

Give homeowners a break on their property taxes for participating.

 

[Sym P. le]

Will that be one deluge or two? Maybe three. One for each stooge.

 

[GregLocock]

"Yes, what man made "schemes" can stop these infernos? " I'd imagine getting water to the fire hydrants would be bit of a man made help. Not topping up the high altitude reservoirs is a man made decision, as is failing to do control burns.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Removal of fuel before it burns I would have thought is the only viable method.

Or controlled burns

 

[btrueblood]

But if you do controlled (or uncontrolled) burns, then the hillsides turn to mud and slide when the rains come back.

 

[TugboatEng]

The concept behind the controlled burn is that if done frequently enough the fire burns only the underbrush and not the larger trees and such. Without regular burns, the brush accumulates and the fire burns hot enough to kill everything and can even burn the roots.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

From extremely distant geography schooling...

Its been done ever since humans discovered how to make fire.

As Tug says its only the underbrush and not the trees and larger root system plants which stabilise the local ground.