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Cantilevered steel column design

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gte447f

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Dec 1, 2008
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I have a question regarding cantilevered steel columns as the seismic force resisting system. I have a steel framed platform on the interior of a building. I am using cantilevered column system G.3 from Table 12.2-1 in ASCE-05 with R=1.25 for the platform. Also, section 12.2.5.2 limits the axial load on the cantilevered column elements to 15% of the column capacity. My question is, when calculating the axial capacity of the columns, should I be using K=2.1 for a cantilevered condition, or can I use K=1? The columns are obviously cantilevered under horizontal loads, but for axial loads are they braced by the platform floor framing (i.e. essentially by the other columns, i guess). If you combine the 15% limit on axial loads and K=2.1 the columns get really conservative in my opinion.
 
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but all the columns are cantilevered.. thus, you must use k=2.1.. If you'd like to use K=1.0, you must use the direct analysis method..
 
Thanks guys. That's what I thought, but was hoping I was wrong. For my current project, for 10.5 ft columns supporting approximately 20 kips and only 500 lbs lateral load, this means the difference between HSS6x6x1/2 and the traditional HSS4x4x1/4. I was not aware of this 15% limit on axial load before now. In hindsight, I have seen a lot of canopies, carports, etc. that were apparently way underdesigned. In my mind, this basically eliminates cantilevered columns as a viable option for "cheapo" architecture projects.
 
terminology?
cantilevered columns? is this a free standing structure with the moment resistance provided by the platform framing?

Dik
 
dik, this is a free standing structure with lateral resistance provided by columns with fixed bases. All connections to the elevated platform are pinned. Columns with fixed bases and pinned tops = cantilevered columns.
 
Thanks... I was thinking of an upside down cantilever (Australian?) thinking that it would be easier to create a moment resistance at the platform level than at the slab?.

Dik
 
Why does the top have to be pinned? Provide flexural restraint top and bottom and you can reduce the factor 'k'.

BA
 
BA, the tops are simple shear connections. The architecture will not accomodate bracing, and I am avoiding moment connections for several reasons. So, at this point I'm going with the larger columns. The Arch has OK'd it. I'm sure the contractor will complain.
 
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