amateurpipe
Mechanical
- Sep 20, 2008
- 7
Hi,
I have a situation where the plant construction has been completed and after that it is realized that certain carbon steel pipes will carry a fluid at - 57 °C temperature.
So, I am trying to work a way out to justify the use of carbon steel pipes at these low temperatures without any further impact tests at this stage.
The carbon steel pipes used are :
A333 Gr. B (8”, 8.18 mm thk - Min Design Temp from Table A-1 = - 45.5 deg C ) &
ASEM 671 CC60 ( 28”, 9.53 mm thk - Min Design Temp from Table A-1 & Fig 323.2.2A = - 48 deg ).
Para. 323.2.2(d)(1), limits the use of Figure 323.2.2(b) to fluid temperatures at - 48 °C.
So, use of both the above mentioned pipes cannot justified by invoking Para. 323.2.2(d)(1) as the fluid temperature is - 57 °C
We will have to invoke Para. 323.2.2(d)(2).
Will satisfying condition ( Note (3) of Table 323.2.2 ) in Para. 323.2.2(d)(2) justify the use of these pipes at - 57 °C without any further impact test ( now that the construction is completed ) ?
For the carbon steel pipes at temperatures of - 48 °C and above , if conditions in Para. 323.2.2(d)(2) are satisfied, can these pipes be used ( without impact testing for base metal, weld deposits, and HAZ ( other that the impact testing already done by the pipe manufacturer )) without satisfying the conditions (a) & (b) of Para. 323.2.2(d)(1) ( conditions for hydrotest pressure & pipe thickness )?
If the conditions in para. 323.2.2(d)(1) ( for temperatures at or above - 48°C ) or para. 323.2.2(d)(2) (for temperatures between - 29°C to - 104°C ) are satisfied, can the conditions in para. 323.2.2(c) ( Column B of Table 323.2.2 ) be ignored to justify use of carbon steel pipes without impact testing for base metal, weld deposits, and HAZ ( other that the impact testing already done by the pipe manufacturer ) ?
Thanks in advance....
amateurpipe
I have a situation where the plant construction has been completed and after that it is realized that certain carbon steel pipes will carry a fluid at - 57 °C temperature.
So, I am trying to work a way out to justify the use of carbon steel pipes at these low temperatures without any further impact tests at this stage.
The carbon steel pipes used are :
A333 Gr. B (8”, 8.18 mm thk - Min Design Temp from Table A-1 = - 45.5 deg C ) &
ASEM 671 CC60 ( 28”, 9.53 mm thk - Min Design Temp from Table A-1 & Fig 323.2.2A = - 48 deg ).
Para. 323.2.2(d)(1), limits the use of Figure 323.2.2(b) to fluid temperatures at - 48 °C.
So, use of both the above mentioned pipes cannot justified by invoking Para. 323.2.2(d)(1) as the fluid temperature is - 57 °C
We will have to invoke Para. 323.2.2(d)(2).
Will satisfying condition ( Note (3) of Table 323.2.2 ) in Para. 323.2.2(d)(2) justify the use of these pipes at - 57 °C without any further impact test ( now that the construction is completed ) ?
For the carbon steel pipes at temperatures of - 48 °C and above , if conditions in Para. 323.2.2(d)(2) are satisfied, can these pipes be used ( without impact testing for base metal, weld deposits, and HAZ ( other that the impact testing already done by the pipe manufacturer )) without satisfying the conditions (a) & (b) of Para. 323.2.2(d)(1) ( conditions for hydrotest pressure & pipe thickness )?
If the conditions in para. 323.2.2(d)(1) ( for temperatures at or above - 48°C ) or para. 323.2.2(d)(2) (for temperatures between - 29°C to - 104°C ) are satisfied, can the conditions in para. 323.2.2(c) ( Column B of Table 323.2.2 ) be ignored to justify use of carbon steel pipes without impact testing for base metal, weld deposits, and HAZ ( other that the impact testing already done by the pipe manufacturer ) ?
Thanks in advance....
amateurpipe