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Ceiling Pockets vs. Concealed Spaces

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4everlearning

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Mar 28, 2007
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Situation = Owner wants to install nominally 10 ft. high fume hoods in a lab with 8 ft. high gyp ceiling.
Engineering = stud-out an alcove approx. 2 ft. all around top of fume hood. Top of fume hood clears bottom of upper slab by inches. Although alcove is framed 2 ft. around fume hood, the gyp at 8 ft. ceiling height will butt right to fume and be caulked at joint. Also, the alcove framing will have one layer of 5/8" Type X gyp over studs.
Construction = At 8 ft. ceiling height an existing automatic sprinkler system provides coverage. Existing heads are not quick response. The front of the fume hood will require an approx. 4" opening in 8 ft. ceiling plane to allow for sash operation. The largest volume of alcove is approx. 16 ft. x 6.5 ft. x 2 ft. high. (< 1000 ft^3)
Is this alcove a "ceiling pocket" or "concealed space" as defined by NFPA sections 8.6.7 and 8.14.1 respectively. Ultimately, does this space require sprinkler protection?
 
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is it combustible constrution in the void space such as wood???

also, there are exceptions in nfpa 13 that negate the sprinkler requirement.
 
Thanks cdafd.
Noncombustable construction in the alcove area.
Yes, I see section 8.6.7 does have exceptions "if" the area is designated a "ceiling pocket". If designated a "ceiling pocket", we would be required to install sprinkler head(s) in this area since the existing heads (at 8 ft. ceiling plane)are not quick response.
I'm not sure if this area can be considered "concealed" since there is the opening at the front of the fume hood.
 
check section 8.14.1.2 nfpa 13 2002 edition what use to be labeled exceptions
 
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