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column at corner of footing qmax formula

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pattontom

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Nov 23, 2012
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The above is very typical in our plans. Where there is any column at edge, it comes hand in hand with column at corner of footing (see right lower picture above).

For column at edge (beyond the kern) of footing but not at corner, the formula to get qmax is:

qmax = 2P/(3bm)

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b comes from rectangular footings of size l x b
so if the P is say 730kn. And b is 3 meter and m is 0.2 meter, the qmax is:

qmax = 2P/(3bm) = 811 kpa

Now I'd like to know the formula for column located at corner of footing. What is the corresponding formula? I can't find it in any books. Or how do you derive the qmax=2P/3bm for column at edge so we can derive the column at corner of footing formula. Thanks.
 
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