Mark_B
Mechanical
- Jan 21, 2024
- 14
I am in the process of building a miniature air handler/VAV/Boiler system at home. The purpose of this system is for more deeply learning Hydronics, controls, fan/VAV controller interactions, PI(D) loops etc and it is not designed to be efficient, simple, or reasonable for real life application.
Here is my current parts list:
Controls
- Will provide upon request. JACE-based controls with extra sensors to collect information during test runs.
Equipment
- Fantech FG8 EC exhaust fan, 0-10VDC speed controllable, 428CFM @ 0 static
- Titus DESV 06, equipped with single row water coil "B016 coil, vav06, 1R/1C, ASC"
- B&G Ecocirc+ 20-18 stainless pump, 0-10VDC variable speed control
- 4-gallon 1440W Bosch ES4 water heater
- Inox Pro stainless 0.53 gallon expansion tank
I understand/believe the water heater is vastly under powered. I'm not concerned with being able to run this for a long time and am okay with 10-20 minute sessions while observing/recording behavior.
I have read basics about using Cv, pressure drop and line vs valve size for sizing of control valves. Our engineer provided me a spreadsheet to simplify selection of control valves but I still do not understand the 'why.' I have done a fair amount of equipment procurement based on engineer-furnished schedules and would often hear something from vendors like "If you want that capacity we need to increase the (water) pressure drop on the coil." The implication seemed to be that increased water pressure drop was required for increased Btu output. I didn't think much at the time and just assumed they were suggesting to furnish coils with more rows.
1) Was this intuition correct?
2) Is the water pressure drop they were speaking of about the coil itself, or the equipped control valve, or both? Can a control valve with larger pressure drop deliver higher capacity (I would guess it would have the opposite effect by reducing flow)?
3) I have been unsuccessful finding pressure drop/technical specifications about my Titus VAV coil. Is there some resource or do you need to be in Titus sales system?
4) Is the use of a three-way valve in a single coil system going to have some effect I am not aware of? I assume in my closed-loop system it would just route some of that unusable pump power back to my water heater and have no ill effect.
Here is my current parts list:
Controls
- Will provide upon request. JACE-based controls with extra sensors to collect information during test runs.
Equipment
- Fantech FG8 EC exhaust fan, 0-10VDC speed controllable, 428CFM @ 0 static
- Titus DESV 06, equipped with single row water coil "B016 coil, vav06, 1R/1C, ASC"
- B&G Ecocirc+ 20-18 stainless pump, 0-10VDC variable speed control
- 4-gallon 1440W Bosch ES4 water heater
- Inox Pro stainless 0.53 gallon expansion tank
I understand/believe the water heater is vastly under powered. I'm not concerned with being able to run this for a long time and am okay with 10-20 minute sessions while observing/recording behavior.
I have read basics about using Cv, pressure drop and line vs valve size for sizing of control valves. Our engineer provided me a spreadsheet to simplify selection of control valves but I still do not understand the 'why.' I have done a fair amount of equipment procurement based on engineer-furnished schedules and would often hear something from vendors like "If you want that capacity we need to increase the (water) pressure drop on the coil." The implication seemed to be that increased water pressure drop was required for increased Btu output. I didn't think much at the time and just assumed they were suggesting to furnish coils with more rows.
1) Was this intuition correct?
2) Is the water pressure drop they were speaking of about the coil itself, or the equipped control valve, or both? Can a control valve with larger pressure drop deliver higher capacity (I would guess it would have the opposite effect by reducing flow)?
3) I have been unsuccessful finding pressure drop/technical specifications about my Titus VAV coil. Is there some resource or do you need to be in Titus sales system?
4) Is the use of a three-way valve in a single coil system going to have some effect I am not aware of? I assume in my closed-loop system it would just route some of that unusable pump power back to my water heater and have no ill effect.