Copy & Paste objects in a Border (polygon)

[redsocksjp]

Hello everyone. Here's my problem.

I need to find a tool or program (on AutoCAD or on BricsCAD) to copy the object in the polygon on a dwg file and paste these to new dwg. These polygons are used to copy objects inside a border.
But original dwg must not be edited when this process will copy a part of this original dwg.
This dwg contains attached images and vector objects (lines, polylines, circles, rectangs...).

Any help would really be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Hiroaki Ora

 

[dik]

Can you not just use the CB (copy base) command?

Dik

 

[redsocksjp]

Thank you Dik,

I want to completely cut along the boundary, including the image,line, polyline...
And it is necessary that the cut image is made with clip-border.

 

[dik]

OP: for enlarged details, I often put a circle of the area and copy circle and all off the plan model... use the circle for trimming and scale the circle contents by 3 (changing a 1/4" scale to a 3/4" scale and CB the circle to another drawing. Maybe same can be done with a polyline enclosed space. Also can use an xref? Don't know..

Dik

 

[Sparweb]

Can be done, if you can accept some conditions: Source must be in model space of drawing 1, target must be in paper space of drawing 2.
Drawing 1: draw the circular boundary around the desired area of your parts.
Drawing 2:
[ul]
[li]go to model space,[/li]
[li]XREF in the model from drawing 1.[/li]
[li]Go to paperspace/layout where you desire this view.[/li]
[li]Make a round polyline (multiple ways to do this; suggest: POLY, 44 sides)[/li]
[li]Create MVIEW, Object, choose boundary at new polyline.[/li]
[li]Align/zoom/pan the visible model space until the circle fits in the viewport.[/li]
[/ul]

Please let us know how it goes.

STF

 

[dik]

SparWeb: can you use a polyline for a viewport?

Dik

 

[redsocksjp]

Thank you Dik and STF,

Yes sure, I can use a polyline for a viewport.

But my goal is to be able to make a drawing to edit directly after pasting.

Any help would really be appreciated.

Hiroaki Ora

 

[CarlB]

There is probably a lisp solution available. I did only a quick search and found a routine something similar to your request, but it probably doesn't trim at the border or handle images.

http://www.cadtutor.net/forum/showthread.php?57864-How-to-select-all-objects-enclosed-in-a-poly-line

 

[Sparweb]

Hi Redsock.
What's stopping you from editing your Xref?
I may be missing what you mean, but at the moment your answer makes me believe you did not try the method, and that you believe I suggested a clipboard approach. I will apologize if you did try it and there has been some misunderstanding.
Just to add clarity to my previous response: I did not say "block". I did not say "paste". I hope you did not try those.
Perhaps, try the method above as I wrote it, and try to carry out the subsequent edits you want, then advise what does not work.
I have used this technique to create multiple drawings from a single reference model, and it worked well.

STF

 

[maripali]

Draw the polygon when copying:
Ctrl+Shift+C (copy with base point)->Select base point->FENCE->select the vertices of the polygon.
All selected items PASTE in any other opened drawing.

 

[dik]

Ctrl+Shift+C

Thanks... didn't know that.

Dik

 

[Sparweb]

I didn't either, maripali. Thanks.

Except that I believe the OP is looking for a means to create a boundary around the selected items.
The only thing FENCE does is select items that happen to fall under the selection line.
It doesn't trim them to fit within a boundary.

 

[dik]

Make a round polyline (multiple ways to do this; suggest: POLY, 44 sides)

In Bricscad, I can convert a circle to a polyline... Is the use of a polygon a means of representing a circular polyline?

In the last couple of weeks, I've started to use tables. Never used them before, and, they are pretty slick.

Had some data on sheet, scanned it, OCR'd it, converted it to CSVs, and imported it... took a couple of minutes once I figgured out how to do it. Real slick.

Dik

 

[maripali]

Yes FENCE does not Trim crossing elements.

Some time ago I,ve used a trick with XREF's like following.
To the current drawing inserting reference drawing as XREF or either as Block.
Draw the cut out polygon as Closed Polyline.
Then with XCLIP command cut out unnecessary areas of the reference drawing. Just follow up XCLIP instructions and sequence. It has many choices.

 

[dik]

more info... thanks, maripali

Dik

 

[Sparweb]

... Is the use of a polygon a means of representing a circular polyline?

Yes. MVIEW does not make a viewport with anything but a closed polyline. You could, if you want a pure circle, just draw a circle, divide it in two, make the pieces a polyline... but "POLY-44-Click-Click" is faster. If that's not round enough you can use more sides. I wonder what the limit is...?

STF

 

[IFRs]

What's this nonsense about viewports can't be circles? MView / Object - pick your circle. Bam - viewport is a circle. I use it all the time to make enlarged details.

 

[Sparweb]

I'm using ACAD 2009 at home to test my instructions. So that's changed since then?

STF

 

[IFRs]

I've used it in R2013 through R2019, perhaps they added the Object option to MView after 2009

 

[dik]

You could, if you want a pure circle, just draw a circle, divide it in two, make the pieces a polyline...

With Bricscad... I can draw a circle... then use PEDIT and click on it and the prograam states it is not a polyline, do you want to convert it, default is 'yes', and bingo. I can click w for width and automatically make a donut. No having to split circles...

Dik