Could this be a DXF issue?

[CADange]

Hello,

I receive drawings from customers on a regular basis, sometimes as dwg's, sometimes as dxf's.

I have never had any problems in the past with either formats, but now when I receive dxf's from a particular customer, the blocks behave as though they have been exploded.

When I double click on the blocks, the text looks as though it has been selected, but it is not available for editing in the dialog box.

The only way to edit this text is by using ATTEDIT in the command line, and then all of the text is available for editing, but the dialog that appears is very different than the usual dialog. I only discovered this issue because I was trying to use a script to change similar block values in many drawings, but it wouldn't work for these particular drawings. Even when I changed my script, I kept getting a message that this text "could not be found" anywhere in the drawing.

I am using AutoCAD 2002, and I think the customer is also using this version, but I'm not sure.

Could these blocks be affected by the dxf process, or could this be a result of shotty block creation? Any suggestions on how to possibly fix this issue for the future?

Thanks

 

[IFRs]

Express tools contains a command to convert attributes to text. It should be evident from the dxf file, which is a pure ASCII text file shat type of entity the "text" is. Search for a known text string and paste into this forum the 10-15 lines surrounding that entry.

 

[CADange]

Thanks for your response. I am unclear as to what text I should be pasting into the forum. The "bad" text is part of a block that I can only edit using attedit. I tried to take a picture of the dialog that appears when this text is selected, but I can't attach it to the forum. Here is what is in the command line after I try to edit the text. I don't know if this will help or not. (The _.eattedit command is caused by me trying to double-click on the block to access the text.)

Opening a Release 12 DXF file.
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [iso8].
Regenerating model.
AutoCAD menu utilities loaded.
Command: z
ZOOM
Specify corner of window, enter a scale factor (nX or nXP), or
[All/Center/Dynamic/Extents/Previous/Scale/Window] <real time>: e
Command:
Command: _.eattedit
This drawing contains no attributed blocks.
Command: 309.747213,10.685230,0.000000 Unknown command
"309.747213,10.685230,0.000000". Press F1 for help.
Command: *Cancel*
Command: *Cancel*
Command: attedit
Select block reference:



If there is more or other information you need, I may need to be directed further to get it for you, but don't hesitate to ask! I am very interested in solving this issue!

Thanks

 

[IFRs]

Cut and paste from the dxf file

 

[CADange]

I have never done this before, so I opened the dxf with notepad, and this is what I got:

0
ENDSEC
0
SECTION
2
ENTITIES
0
INSERT
8
R01
62
7
2
JR24E (this is the main block)
10
0.00
20
0.00
66
1
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
405.40
20
13.00
40
2.0
41
0.70
1
0-20
2
BLANUM
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
72
2
11
411.00
21
13.00
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
397.00
20
9.00
40
2.0
41
0.70
1
0-21
2
BLATT
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
246.00
20
15.00
40
4.0
41
0.70
1
VERSORGUNG GR.0
2
GR.NAME1
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
72
1
11
267.00
21
15.00
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
86.00
20
21.00
40
2.0
41
0.70
1
20.8.87
2
Datum
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
86.00
20
17.00
40
2.0
41
0.70
1
WEISS/heel
2
Bearb.
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
3
10
251.88
20
10.00
40
4.0
41
0.70
1
SUPPLY GR.0
2
GR.NAME2
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
363.00
20
10.00
40
3.5
41
0.60
1
206025/A330
2
KOM
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
304.00
20
10.00
40
3.5
41
0.60
1
ZE1200-45/22.2.2 (this is block text I want to change)
2
TYP
70
0
7
LATEIN_P
0
ATTRIB
8
R01
62
7
10
304.00
20
18.00
40
3.5
41
0.60
1
123 743
2

Hopefully this is what you're looking for. I didn't want to include too much stuff, but if you need more, please let me know.

Thanks for your time.

 

[CADange]

Thank you for trying to help IFR(Petroleum).

While checking out the dxf text file, I couldn't find anything really all that different from any of our other dxf files or other customer dxf files.

I did some more testing with the different options of the attedit command, and noticed that the script I was using (which was created by another user who passed the problematic dxf's to me) was not utilizing the command properly.

After pinpointing exactly what needed to be changed, and correcting the script, I can now easily change the block text with a script, even though the block doesn't behave normally.

Again, thanks for trying to help. You opened my eyes to new ways of finding information. Much appreciated.