JStephen
Mechanical
- Aug 25, 2004
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A question for you folks.
Let's suppose you have a structure supported by steel columns with cross bracing in an X-shaped configuration between columns. The structure is loaded vertically and with a shear load at the top. Under what conditions is it permissible to neglect compressive stresses in the design of the cross braces?
If the cross braces are very thin (IE, rods with turnbuckles), I can see how they would never carry any compressive load, yet would not be damaged by a minor amount of movement in the compressive direction- they would just sag a little more.
Or, if the member sizes were comparable to the columns themselves, then the braces would be expected to carry part of the vertical loads as well as tension or compression due to shear at the top.
But at what point do you transition from one case to the other? Is it the whim of the designer? Or do you pretend that any member that is inadequate to carry its calculated compressive load just doesn't have any load? Is there any particular l/r ratio that you could use as a cutoff?
I'd be interested to know your thoughts on the topic, and would be especially interested in any references that might clarify this.
Design codes could vary, but AISC-ASD would be typical.
Let's suppose you have a structure supported by steel columns with cross bracing in an X-shaped configuration between columns. The structure is loaded vertically and with a shear load at the top. Under what conditions is it permissible to neglect compressive stresses in the design of the cross braces?
If the cross braces are very thin (IE, rods with turnbuckles), I can see how they would never carry any compressive load, yet would not be damaged by a minor amount of movement in the compressive direction- they would just sag a little more.
Or, if the member sizes were comparable to the columns themselves, then the braces would be expected to carry part of the vertical loads as well as tension or compression due to shear at the top.
But at what point do you transition from one case to the other? Is it the whim of the designer? Or do you pretend that any member that is inadequate to carry its calculated compressive load just doesn't have any load? Is there any particular l/r ratio that you could use as a cutoff?
I'd be interested to know your thoughts on the topic, and would be especially interested in any references that might clarify this.
Design codes could vary, but AISC-ASD would be typical.