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Design ideas for a NFPA 13 Residential Occupancy

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jkampana

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Aug 2, 2011
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I am running into some issues on a somewhat unique design for an apartment complex in SLC. Due to the close proximity of adjacent buildings in the area. The builder cannot provide FD access within 150' of all portions of the structure per the IFC. The AHJ has requested, as an alternate means of fire protection, that the design densities in the fire suppression system to be increased a level. Therefore, parking areas will be designed with a .2 design density and residential areas with a .15 design density.

This is not so much of an issue in the parking garage but it is in the apartment areas. The contractor is requesting concealed flat plate pendents in all areas. with a residential head I will have a 4.9 k-factor head of a 5.6 factor head from Reliable. If I use a 16x16 spacing my end head pressure will be (.15*256/4.9)^2=61.41 psi or (.15*256/5.6)^2=47.02 psi respectively. Along with highest outlets being at 50' above the flow test point, adding an additional 21.65 psi to the required pressure for the system. That is even before I start adding friction loss in the pipe so I'm sure you can see my dilemma. A simulated fire flow for the area was 106 Static and 20 psi @ 3000 gpm. I will know the actual numbers next week.

Our hope is to do all residential areas in CPVC and to obviously keep pipe sizes as small as possible. My question is what are some design ideas that I may use to achieve the best and cheapest design possible? I thought about using a commercial head instead of a residential head. That way I can use a most demanding room design approach which would still have me calculating 4 heads in a unit (+2 in coordinator). This would allow me to avoid flowing 4 sprinklers on one branch line and would instead push me to where each compartment has a max of 2 heads on a single branch line. Higher k factors would also help the end head pressure.

I also thought about looping each floor using another standpipe, that would add another floor control assembly for each floor.

Does anybody have any other ideas I may be overlooking or any advice for me on this kind of design? Thanks

 
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CDA, we allow a 75% fire flow reduction for NFPA 13 and 13R systems because their efficacy continues to confirm how well they control fires in Group R occupancies. This is allowed by the IFC provided at least 1,500 GPM @ 20 PSIG is available for manual fire fighting. Combined with the construction requirements for dwelling/sleeping units and IFC requirements for smoke alarms in the dwelling/sleeping units and smoke detection in enclosed corridors, we're not uncomfortable with this.

One other thing: I hate trash chutes. After Dallas FD had the firefighter LODD last year in the apartment building where the waste and debris in the chute was a contributing factor, we've started looking at these much closer. They take a beating so the required shaft opening protectives and the shaft itself requires continuous scrutiny.
 
Scott

Thanks, we may have a fire flow problem where they want to put this.

And yes I have pictures of trash chute/ laundry chute doors that do not close or proped open
 
CDA:

If you do have a fire flow problem, go full NFPA 13 and further stipulate the combustible concealed spaces require AS protection. When the shop drawings arrive, make sure you have the correct details for the truss sprinklers. I require the shop drawings to illustrate the draft stop locations, the area boundary within each draft stopped bay, and the manufacturer design detail. Make darn sure the inspector's cannot accept a sprinkler substitution. There are small but very important differences between the various Truss sprinkler manufacturers.
 
Scott

I am getting lost in the truss sprinkler and draft stop issue

Can you give me a ref in 13

Do you mean the floor ceiling assembly protection?
If so I do know about that.
 
The specially listed concealed space sprinklers (Tyco CC, Viking COIN, etc) have requirements for draft CURTAINs. These are different than draft stops, but must be provided per the listing of the sprinkler. They are typically required to compartmentalize the concealed space to 1000 sq ft. The draft curtain shall be constructed of a material that will not allow heat to pass over. They shall be 1/3 the depth of the space, or 8", whichever is greater.

Also, be away that if you have TJI and specially listed sprinklers, TJI space must be fully insulated and it has to be wired in place.

These sprinklers have very specific requirements that must be adhered to in order to be in compliance with listings. For example, if you use cpvc, the piping must be held low and you have to sprig up to the sprinklers.

Travis Mack
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Travis thanks that is what I finally figured out what was being talked about.
 
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