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uwam2ie

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Jul 11, 2005
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I'm working master model one drawing per file / native.
Problem: I have large number of drw-sheets 30 and more...
In the title block a field counts the number of sheets for example:no. 12 from 35 sheets no.(12/35). At the beginning of drafting detailing I don't know how many sheets I must do. Now I edit every single sheet for this info. Can I automize that. How have you solve this problem, any ideas?
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You can if you're running at least NX 5.

Below is an excerpt from the NX 5 'What's New' guide:

Control string Description

<W@$SH_SHEET_NUMBER> Sheet number of the current sheet

<W@$SH_NUMBER_OF_SHEETS> Number of sheets in the current part

<W@$SH_SHEET_SCALE_NUMERATOR> Numerator of the sheet scale

<W@$SH_SHEET_SCALE_DENOMINATOR> Denominator of the sheet scale

<W@$SH_SHEET_SIZE> Size of the current sheet

<W@$SH_SHEET_UNITS> Units of the current sheet

<W@$SH_SHEET_PROJECTION_ANGLE> Projection angle symbol of the current sheet

<W@$SH_MASTER_PART_NAME> Master Model drawing sheet part name

<W@$SH_PART_NAME> Sheet part name


To use these control strings, you can use the Annotation Editor to enter a string in an area where you wish to automate text. For example, you could these strings in the title block of a drawing format.




John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 
thx so far, John
I know this enhancement of Nx5
I've I have 35 +x drw-sheets each in a single file.
I have to edit the number of sheets attribute in each file or, there is no workaround
thx
 
I don't think I exactly follow what your talking about, but a problem we ran into recently was if you wanted to make sheet 2 become sheet 5 and vice versa. You can't just edit the sheet name and there really is no way to do it. GTAC just sent me an email yesterday that this is now an ER so that may be of some use to what you are asking.

A workaround is to create and delete sheets and move the views and notes to the proper sheets to achieve the correct numbering scheme you wish.

Don't know if this is what you are talking about but may help.
 
All of our actual drawings, regardless of how many sheets, are in one file (per drawing number). We don't use the canned drawing templates to add additional sheets because of this.
I have never worked for a company that maintained a separate file for each drawing sheet, and hope that I won't have to.
What are the advantages of doing it this way?

Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare. - [small]Robert Hunter[/small]
 
You do NOT have to maintain a different file for each sheet as we also provide a way of using second sheet templates which just ADDS a second, third, fourth, etc. sheet to an existing drawing file. This is supported starting in NX 5. Note that this is NOT done using the 'File New' dialog, but rather by adding a tab to the resource bar to access the multi-sheet templates. This also allows you to make the additional sheets different than the first one, with different notes and or not having a predefined parts list, etc.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 
Like I said in another thread... I'm still stuck in a pre-NX5 mindset. When the workload allows, I will try and catch up.[reading]
Then again, I may just try to catch up to NX6, instead.

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. - [small]Thomas Jefferson [/small]
 
Ok more explanatory notes:
We have a tooling project. We have to do detail some asm. drawings and multiple single part drawings from the components. The rule is for each component when it is possible one drawing file maybe with to sheet when there is a need. The assmbley drawings are also in a single drawing file. Multiple sheet inside are also possible - to the needs.
Across the tooling project all titleblocks in each drawing have an information with number this drawing and how many drawing are in this project. for ex. no 23/42.
My idea is to it with a control part where I have an expression with the actual max. sheet number, to use this as interpart expression on the draw. sheet. I've not tested yet.
will it work ?
 
If you run NX 5 there is no need since the smart text KNOWS the number of sheets and the order in which they were created. But yes, you could create an expression that you would manually update to represent the number of sheets and this could be read by a note.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
 
... all of this have many problems:
strings not well supported in interpart expression values
The 2D exchange doesn't support this workaround expressions from interpart expressions <=> string values.
 
Are people still struggling with 2D exchange?

I'm not sure if I should be surprised that 2D exchange seems to have so many problems, or that people so frequently have their hearts set on using such a thing.

So okay I find 2D exchnage a touch dissapointing from a technical point of view. Sure if you're going to have a 2d Exchange product you're correct to expect good performance, and I've no issues with anyone pursuing that. That said a lot of reasons given from wanting to use it are overcome by a little lateral thinking and using another method or way of going about the task.

Just in my opinion NO CAD system does worthwhile job of converting Drawings from one system to another. And that said my starting point is everything you output is no better than a PDF so what's wrong with a PDF?

I'm naturally suspicious that when anyone using another CAD system wants 2D translated drawing data in their system that no good may come of it. Seems to me a lot like an uncontrolled copy of a design just waiting to happen and possibly even with your name still on the drawing. I thought I should just mention that in case you do want to re-think what you think you want!

Cheers

Hudson
 
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