Earthquake in Morocco 3

[hokie66]

Big earthquake struck south of Marrakech. Hundreds dead, perhaps thousands. This was reported to be a 6.8 quake, and the built environment in that area is primarily unreinforced masonry.

 

[Pud]

Current dead at 17:00 GMT is 2100 and counting.

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[Alistair_Heaton]

Absolutely nobody seems bothered this side of the pond.

I would have thought the Spanish would have given a slight bit of sympathy as they want to grab the gib straights but absolute zero

 

[IRstuff]

boots on the ground means mouths to feed, which takes away from the carrying capacity of the undamaged infrastructure for feeding the populace in general.

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[TugboatEng]

Yes, the demands that the US President and other leaders visit disaster areas are totally counter-productive.

 

[dik]

I'm not sure... anything that changes the loading on the earth's surface, by shifting weight or thermal stresses, may have an impact on the plates... unlikely, but I don't know for sure.

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[1503-44]

Alestair, change channel to RTVE news.
Spain was there immediately with rescue units and 100M €
España, Reino Unido, Emiratos Árabes y Catar also participating.

https://www.rtve.es/noticias/202309...humanitaria-terremoto-marruecos/2455564.shtml

https://www.rtve.es/noticias/20230910/terremoto-marruecos-muertos-supervivientes/2455620.shtml

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[Alistair_Heaton]

Well I suppose locally to me they have more Russian issues to concentrate on.

I really like Morocco the food, the people.

 

[1503-44]

I need to check in with my Maroccan import shop owner. He is originally from Marrekech.

--Einstein gave the same test to students every year. When asked why he would do something like that, "Because the answers had changed."

 

[cranky108]

To me the surprise is that I don't recall any major fault lines there. But then again this area is not known for earthquakes in the past.
The large number of causalities also should show that the people there did not expect this. Buildings, building codes don't seem to reflect much past risk.

 

[Alistair_Heaton]

Atlas mountains?

 

[phamENG]

List of Earthquakes in Morocco

Just because building codes don't account for it doesn't mean people aren't expecting it. Just look at the most recent episode in Turkey. There was one town in the middle of all of it where the local government grew a pair and forced builders to follow plans and designers to design for these events. They were relatively spared while the rest of the region crumbled.

Not saying it's the same here, but but our 120 years of instrumentation combined with a thousand or so of written records (depending on the region) is a blink of an eye relative to the geologic time scale...anyone who relies simply on his/her own observations as the only window to what's possible/normal/correct is a short sited fool.

 

[1503-44]

The African and EuroAsian plates collide at the Straits of Gibraltar.

Its not just piles of rocks and sand out there, if you know how to read the evidence.
Earthquakes, landslides, tsunamis, massive floods, glaciers, volcanic eruptions, mentor strikes, fossil bones and trees, pollen and seed deposition, sequences of decomposition of materials, magnetic field residuals, upwelling and subduction rates, atomic decay rates, mineral formation temperatures, trapped gas compositions, all leave detectable corroborating and datable evidence of their occurrence in the geologic time scale as well. There are millions, if not billions of years of records observable in the present day geology itself.

After all, it used to look like this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangaea

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[1503-44]

Rough week for N Africa.
2000 dead in Libya floods

https://youtu.be/KL4ORQLFtjs?si=q0yYX1BCQ4GNeIBg

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[1503-44]

3000 dead in Morocco, 10,000 missing in Libya

--Einstein gave the same test to students every year. When asked why he would do something like that, "Because the answers had changed."

 

[Brian Malone]

The dams that failed in Libya were compacted earth. Both built in the 1970s.

https://eos.org/thelandslideblog/the-failed-dams-in-wadi-derna-in-libya

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/12/world/middleeast/libya-floods-dams-collapse.html

 

[DAVIDSTECKER]

Need to look deeper, but if there isn't a Military Sealift Preposition ship there already, it's on its way.
They are stocked full of supplies and can make fresh water from sea water, thousands of gallons a day.

 

[TugboatEng]

I don't know that the ship will be able to provide drinking water from its water maker. They are evaporation type plants typically and need to be fed with clean water. That means the plant can only be run while moving in the open ocean.

 

[zeusfaber]

RO plants have more or less taken over from evaporators in the last twenty years (at least in naval vessels on this side of the pond).

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