suddenDEBT
Mechanical
- Jul 23, 2012
- 6
Hey guys,
I have an application with a sensor(see thread title) mounted .040-.080" away from a rotating shaft in a splash lubricated gearbox. The sensor is not submerged but may be splashed, the wire is wrapped in silicone tape at the top of the body to ensure no oil can follow the wire down into the sensor. The goal is to measure the dynamic deflection of said shaft under load. We have tried sensors from two different manufacturers and neither has held up in this environment. Both have threaded bodies with some sort of epoxy doping that retains the internal goodies.
We seem to be having a problem with sensor robustness, we are on our third sensor. Two from ME and our first from Omega looks like its starting to fail also.
The problem arises when we do a series of runs to collect data, the system experiences drift from run to run, and from day to day. We will recalibrate between runs, and experience changes during the run until the sensor fails to report reasonable changes in distance. The most recent sensor has "temperature compensation" up to 140oF. This is not really even at operating temperature so we performed our tests until the oil temperature reached 140F. The temperature may have continued to rise past 140 after shut off due to heat soaking. Upon processing the data it is evident that the data points drifted down, (voltage is analog to distance) as temperature went up. We let the unit cool overnight and repeated the runs today, only to find a drift even lower than the previous days hot runs. The amount of drift is not in the realm of correction via signal processing, in the attached image the DC offset is approximately 20% of the signal amplitude. The overall amplitude and wave shapes appear to be correct but as the sensor fails, the drift becomes unreasonable compared to the calibration. This is the same behavior we saw with previous sensors.
Inspection of the sensor(s) reveals no contact, no apparent oil ingress or damage otherwise. We have submitted the following questions to the manufacturer(s), but I am curious what the community here thinks as well:
Is it possible that the thermal stresses have yield the sensor's internals and change its behavior?
Is sulfurized gear oil (EP 80-90w) corrosive to the epoxy or could it be making it swell? (EP oil is corrosive to copper, the OMEGA body is made from nickel plated brass)
Who makes something sturdy enough for this type of application?
I have an application with a sensor(see thread title) mounted .040-.080" away from a rotating shaft in a splash lubricated gearbox. The sensor is not submerged but may be splashed, the wire is wrapped in silicone tape at the top of the body to ensure no oil can follow the wire down into the sensor. The goal is to measure the dynamic deflection of said shaft under load. We have tried sensors from two different manufacturers and neither has held up in this environment. Both have threaded bodies with some sort of epoxy doping that retains the internal goodies.
We seem to be having a problem with sensor robustness, we are on our third sensor. Two from ME and our first from Omega looks like its starting to fail also.
The problem arises when we do a series of runs to collect data, the system experiences drift from run to run, and from day to day. We will recalibrate between runs, and experience changes during the run until the sensor fails to report reasonable changes in distance. The most recent sensor has "temperature compensation" up to 140oF. This is not really even at operating temperature so we performed our tests until the oil temperature reached 140F. The temperature may have continued to rise past 140 after shut off due to heat soaking. Upon processing the data it is evident that the data points drifted down, (voltage is analog to distance) as temperature went up. We let the unit cool overnight and repeated the runs today, only to find a drift even lower than the previous days hot runs. The amount of drift is not in the realm of correction via signal processing, in the attached image the DC offset is approximately 20% of the signal amplitude. The overall amplitude and wave shapes appear to be correct but as the sensor fails, the drift becomes unreasonable compared to the calibration. This is the same behavior we saw with previous sensors.
Inspection of the sensor(s) reveals no contact, no apparent oil ingress or damage otherwise. We have submitted the following questions to the manufacturer(s), but I am curious what the community here thinks as well:
Is it possible that the thermal stresses have yield the sensor's internals and change its behavior?
Is sulfurized gear oil (EP 80-90w) corrosive to the epoxy or could it be making it swell? (EP oil is corrosive to copper, the OMEGA body is made from nickel plated brass)
Who makes something sturdy enough for this type of application?