Equivalent beam model of a thin cylindrical shell

[Gardenfence]

Hi,

I want to reduce a thin cylidrical shell model to a points along the centreline such that an equivalent beam model is formed with only bending modes. I am working in ABAQUS.

I have made a shell model, it has a non-circular cross section, uniform along length:


This model is partitioned into 60 equal sections, with a node posisitioned at the centre of each section (centre of mass). I have then applied a structural distributing coupling constraint on each centre node to the surrounding shell structure section.

Then using a Guyan reduction I have reduced the stiffness matrix to the centre nodes of the shell (centre nodes selected as masters). The reduced model has 360 DOF.

For the mass matrix I have used the Guyan transformation matrix and reduced the full mass matrix, and also I have also used lumped masses at on the nodes with the mass properties of each section obtained in ABAQUS.

With the approach of reducing the full mass matrix, I do get the bending modes of the structure, however, I also get loads of other modes corrosponding to the centreline motion the shell modes that I was hoping was going to be removed in the reduction.

Using lumped masses gives a worse result, where none of the modes makes sense and are confusing. There doesnt appear to be any bending modes in the reduced model following this approach.

Am I approaching this the wrong way? is there a better way to approach the reduction such that there are only bending modes remaining?

Any help would be appreciated!

 

[FEA way]

Couldn't you just create a custom beam section ? This is supported in Abaqus - you can provide the section constants for an arbitrary section if you know them or use a meshed section (create and mesh a 2D part representing it and generate the constants). What is the purpose of this model ? Is it meant for some further dynamic analyses ?

 

[rb1957]

yes, a 2D beam element with a circular cross-section. But your post-FEA analysis will need to consider the various modes of failure of a tube (which may be different to a stable cross-section). What is the geometry (radius, thickness, length) like ?

 

[GVDR]

Your simulation objective is not clear, so it is not easy for us to orient towards a good modelling strategy. By the look of your model and assuming you checked the properties, if you do not get mostly bending modes, either your section is very specific or your are looking at quite high frequencies.

If you want a beam behavior, you can actually model your system as a beam (with assumptions on the section), using a custom beam section.

Using central nodes to reduce your problem is not an advisable strategy, unless you are trying to connect this part to something else, without needing/having the possibility to precisely model the connection interface. In such case, you can use distributing coupling to model a coupling associated to loads. Note that distributing coupling is quite specific as your center node is slave and is constrained to move as the weighted average of the master points. Displacements like ovalization will thus not be constrained, explaining the displacements you are describing. You can use kinematic coupling, but that will imply that your section becomes rigid for all connected points, that will likely give an inaccurate result.

 

[Gardenfence]

Couldn't you just create a custom beam section ? This is supported in Abaqus - you can provide the section constants for an arbitrary section if you know them or use a meshed section (create and mesh a 2D part representing it and generate the constants). What is the purpose of this model ? Is it meant for some further dynamic analyses ?

I could do that and i will try that tomorrow, however, the approach i want to take is to reduce the shell model i have, moreso because the stiffness of the full model is well represented in a model with only beam modes.

Im not sure making a 2D beam element model with provide that accuracy.

 

[Gardenfence]

yes, a 2D beam element with a circular cross-section. But your post-FEA analysis will need to consider the various modes of failure of a tube (which may be different to a stable cross-section). What is the geometry (radius, thickness, length) like ?

radius is around 3m, length is 70m, thickness around 3mm. So its a very long thin shell model.

 

[Gardenfence]

Your simulation objective is not clear, so it is not easy for us to orient towards a good modelling strategy. By the look of your model and assuming you checked the properties, if you do not get mostly bending modes, either your section is very specific or your are looking at quite high frequencies.

If you want a beam behavior, you can actually model your system as a beam (with assumptions on the section), using a custom beam section.

Using central nodes to reduce your problem is not an advisable strategy, unless you are trying to connect this part to something else, without needing/having the possibility to precisely model the connection interface. In such case, you can use distributing coupling to model a coupling associated to loads. Note that distributing coupling is quite specific as your center node is slave and is constrained to move as the weighted average of the master points. Displacements like ovalization will thus not be constrained, explaining the displacements you are describing. You can use kinematic coupling, but that will imply that your section becomes rigid for all connected points, that will likely give an inaccurate result.

The objective is to comapre the response of the full and reduced models essentially just a large model reduction exercise. Im looking at relatively low frequencies <50 Hz.

I think a beam model will have to be the next step, i have tried to get the reduced model to work with no luck unfortunately.

Is there a way to match the beam stiffness properties to the properties of each section of the shell? i have the mass properties

 

[rb1957]

"Is there a way to match the beam stiffness properties to the properties of each section of the shell? i have the mass properties" .... ? a beam element needs section properties (A, I) which might be "mass properties" ? but you should be able to calc these.
So you're looking for modal response ... Maybe a beam element won't give you the behaviour of the shell ? Do you see modes with the shell locally vibrating ?
This is a very thin wall tube ... is it pressurised ??