QC-engr
Structural
- Dec 28, 2018
- 4
I'm needing help deciphering the actual need for an expansion joint in my current project...
Project Description:
Footprint of 775' x 335', and 75' tall warehouse with no floors/mezzanines.
Construction is rigid insulation over metal decking over joist and girders.
The cladding is simply metal siding and CFS girts.
I'm employing ordinary concentric braced frames - all bundled at the mid-lengths of each wall. All four exterior walls are braced.
Wind definitely governs.
Before anyone asks, YES, I've read report #65.
My project is set in mid-Pennsylvania. According to the methodology of that report, the temperature delta (approx 44 degree F) would produce an overall expansion of 2.65" in the 775' distance. The report figure recommends I have an expansion joint at 517'. If I include the heating/AC (which I feel is allowed in my case) 15% addition, I can get up to 595'. This is still short of my 775' building length.
My questions/thoughts/ramblings:
1. All of my steel is UNDER insulation and not exposed to the outdoor shifts. Would my temperature delta actually be the temperature swing of the the thermostat window - more like 15 degree F. This would lower my overall expansion/contaction from 2.65" to 0.88".
2. What IS the overall purpose of expansion joints? From what I read its to either/or (a)inhibit too much deflection/drift/sway as to not interfere/harm with architectural/brittle materials and (b)to "release" internal forces caused by these temperature changes.
Whats the harm of letting it expand freely - with no expansion joints?
Project Description:
Footprint of 775' x 335', and 75' tall warehouse with no floors/mezzanines.
Construction is rigid insulation over metal decking over joist and girders.
The cladding is simply metal siding and CFS girts.
I'm employing ordinary concentric braced frames - all bundled at the mid-lengths of each wall. All four exterior walls are braced.
Wind definitely governs.
Before anyone asks, YES, I've read report #65.
My project is set in mid-Pennsylvania. According to the methodology of that report, the temperature delta (approx 44 degree F) would produce an overall expansion of 2.65" in the 775' distance. The report figure recommends I have an expansion joint at 517'. If I include the heating/AC (which I feel is allowed in my case) 15% addition, I can get up to 595'. This is still short of my 775' building length.
My questions/thoughts/ramblings:
1. All of my steel is UNDER insulation and not exposed to the outdoor shifts. Would my temperature delta actually be the temperature swing of the the thermostat window - more like 15 degree F. This would lower my overall expansion/contaction from 2.65" to 0.88".
2. What IS the overall purpose of expansion joints? From what I read its to either/or (a)inhibit too much deflection/drift/sway as to not interfere/harm with architectural/brittle materials and (b)to "release" internal forces caused by these temperature changes.
(a) I don't have brittle finishes. If recognizing the 2.65" expansion, that would mean my two outer walls (opposite of the 775' direction) would each drift out 1.33". That equates to a very tight H/631!
(b) The ends of the 775' direction are not bound by any other confining structure(s). The expansion of the steel would not be bound up against other items. There is no stress since the expansion is not restricted - only the roof level expanding outward.
Whats the harm of letting it expand freely - with no expansion joints?