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Face mounted floor joists 2

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RustyGold

Structural
Oct 17, 2002
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Older home with face-mounted joists that are pulling away from the main beam (ledger boards are rotating outwards) - my theory is that is from wood shrinkage and other ageing affects (ledger was also not supported at the bottom by the columns - causing some downward movement).

At any rate, I hope to get some ideas on a recommended repair. Any thoughts?

 
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looks like a steel beam packet out with 2x material with a 2X4 ledger nailed on to this. If you have rotation then they don't have the 2x material packing out the beam bolted to the web of the I beam.

Is the system failing? What are you trying to accomplish? Chances are it has looked like this for some time now.
 
The beam is a wood (not steel) 6"x 8" (far right side of the photo). 2"x 4" ledger is nailed, but pulling out (rotation) at the top - abut 1/4" to 3/8" gap at the top. Ledger has also moved downward slightly - hard to see in the photo, but the bottom of left side ledger is lower (no longer flush) with the bottom of the beam. Floor joist bearing has also been shortened as a result and some nailing has pulled out.

I agree that this has been in existence for some time. However, the client is also in the process of replacing a section of this beam (other end) due to termite damage. Saw these connections in the review and hope to come up with way of bracing. The home will likely be put up for sale in the near future - an item that could be red-flagged in a home inspection.
 
How about cut the joist off 1-1/2" to get rid of the notch. Nail a 2X8 to the side of the beam as a ledger sort of speak and use face mounted hangers.
 
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