Facebook profile request during job interviews 10

[ports394]

So I searched facebook and saw an old 2010 discussion about this. Nothing recently.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-03-20-03-22-06

Does anyone else think this is a bad practice? I keep my facebook locked down for privacy, and the most I say about work is "Had a long day at work today" or "Worked 12 hours today".

I was going over the ASME Ethics for MechE's and they really say nothing about being a decent person, not posting stupid links on FB, etc etc....As long as you put the public good first, as an engineer and promote the profession in a positive way.

 

[MacGyverS2000]

Yea!

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/m...m-asking-for-employee-social-media-passwords/

Dan - Owner

http://www.Hi-TecDesigns.com

 

[DRWeig]

I would pack up and move to Maryland if not for the weather up there.

Thanks MacGyver

Good on ya,

Goober Dave

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[MacGyverS2000]

Granted, it's just sad that we have to pass a law for something that should be common sense, but there it is...

Dan - Owner

http://www.Hi-TecDesigns.com

 

[lacajun]

That's like the HR guy inviting himself on an outing with your family and friends. It's rude and you don't do it.

HR is there to look out for the company not the employees. Some HR people have established a militant relationship with the employees.

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC

 

[asixth]

This was an interesting forum. I wrote about this in 2009 about using FB to gain employment, thread731-261719

Why do HR request facebook login's. What can I do to use it to my advantage?

Back when I was looking for a job it was a case of first impression counts. From the time I first met a potential employer in an interview they would know within 30 secs whether they were going to employ me or not.

Seeing that FB has taken off further since '09 it seems that FB screenings are becoming the 'first impression'. I don't have a FB account because of social anxiety and no friends, spend all my time at work and Saturday nights reading thru eng-tips posts.

So should I start an account, keep it clean just to make myself more employable.

I actually copped the sack from my last workplace for posting information on eng-tips. It was over ethics.

 

[MacGyverS2000]

So should I start a [sic]FB[sic] account, keep it clean just to make myself more employable.

I actually copped the sack from my last workplace for posting information on eng-tips. It was over ethics.

So you were canned from a previous job due to questionable ethics while posting to an engineering-related website... do you really have to ask about creating a social media-based page?

Dan - Owner

http://www.Hi-TecDesigns.com

 

[SNORGY]

I dunno.
I personally would be so disgusted by some idiot asking me for my Facebook log-in that, in all likelihood, I would launch into a five-minute acidic tirade over how stupid that idiot was that I would likely end up being escorted out of the building by security.
Of course, at that point, I probably would have decided in my own mind that I no longer wanted the job.
Asking for access to FB is just plain wrong. No excuse for it. The practice probably continues because we are intimidated into submitting to it. When enough people stand up for themselves and stop putting up with the bullying, the bullying will stop.

Regards,

SNORGY.

 

[beej67]

I think the guy in the blog points out all you need to know to school an employer on this whole "let me see your Facebook" thing.

"I'm not saying I'm gay, but what exactly would you do if you found out I was gay by looking at my Facebook page? Would you not hire me because I'm gay, or would you be forced to hire me because I'm gay, and are you prepared do deal with the lawsuit I can lay against you in either case? Also, who's brainchild was this whole Facebook portion of the interview, and how could they not have thought that far ahead? Will that business genius have any effect on my employment in your firm?"

If the firm is worth working for, they're going to realize how far out in left field they are once you start asking these questions. If they buck the questions, then you would really rather keep looking for employment anyway.



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[berkshire]

beej67
I think you have hit on the whole Pandoras Box aspect of this thing.
If a prospective employer looks at your facebook page, they are then presumed to, "know", what is on there.

If there are things on there, they would rather, "not know", they are then out of luck. Especially if this presumed knowlege is used as the basis for a lawsuit.
I am sure it will not take long for a few enterprising bottom feeding lawyers to come up with a way of generating money out of this.
B.E.

The good engineer does not need to memorize every formula; he just needs to know where he can find them when he needs them. Old professor

 

[patprimmer]

Lawyers who help you sue people for this have elevated their feeding position a little I think. Anybody trying to intimidate you into breaking a contract with a third party and who is illegally infringing on your privacy deserves to be sued and the lawyer facilitating that had done the community a service.

Regards
Pat
See FAQ731-376 for tips on use of eng-tips by professional engineers &

http://eng-tips.com/market.cfm

for site rules

 

[thruthefence]

I can see Facebook, as a business entity, lobbying for a stop to this HR foolishness.

Facebook is in business for one reason, to data mine it's members information, and sell it to someone. Why should these HR "amateurs" be allowed to use Facebook's material?

Or maybe they'll form another company, "HR concepts" or some-such, to sell info direct to the HR departments on a subscription basis?

I smell money to be made.

 

[jmw]

But though they may like your idea I bet they don't offer you any royalties on it.

JMW

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[loki3000]

i think it's illegal in most parts of europe. i know for my country that it can cost the prospective employer a couple of thousand euros (two figures come to mind, 4000-ish and 12,000-ish)

 

[TD2K]

Interesting discussion. My former supervisor has moved onto another position with the company and recently sent me a 'friend' request on Facebook.

I'm not sure if there is anything behind his request but so far I've ignored it. If I get asked, I'm going to tell him the truth and say I almost never log onto Facebook (which is the truth).

 

[Gymmeh]

if you google (not that you can LOL) my FB page "1984" By George Orwell is the first things under "likes".


I would never work for a company that did that.
Also as a person with minions working under me...

I would not want to hire someone that would so freely give out personal private info!!! This will indicate to me they would not keep company secrets/ proprietary info. which is very important in my industry.

 

[DRWeig]

Great point, Gymmeh. Until it's outlawed in my state, I'm going to add this to our interview checklist. Any candidate who gives out his password gets a question mark under "confidentiality."

I might ask 'em for their SSN, bank account number, mother's maiden name, favorite pet, and previous employer's VPN connection credentials while I'm at it.

Good on ya,

Goober Dave

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[berkshire]

DRWeig (Electrical)
""I might ask 'em for their SSN, bank account number, mother's maiden name, favorite pet, and previous employer's VPN connection credentials while I'm at it.""

Dave- You are of course asking this to check the applicants gullibility right?

You would not entertain any thoughts of financial gain, would you?
B.E.

The good engineer does not need to memorize every formula; he just needs to know where he can find them when he needs them. Old professor

 

[DRWeig]

Oh, heavens no, berkshire! But if I hire that person anyway, I'll have some other-than-golden handcuffs to insure loyalty.

Good on ya,

Goober Dave

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[AgeXVII]

I will have to try to find the news article on it but there was one the other day I saw about interview questions that are asked more often than not but are illegal for companies to ask. I did not really pay too much attention to it but it had some questions such as "are you married" Here is the one I think I saw part of but there are more.

http://www.ehow.com/info_7822102_illegal-questions-ask-during-interview.html

or this one has more to that list:

http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/gettingthejob/a/illegal_quest.htm

Nothing about asking for passwords etc but I agree it might be a confidentiality test when they ask to see just what people will give out.

 

[AgeXVII]

Sorry didn't hyperlink them in

There we go!