Fined by the city for claiming to be an engineer - Suing on grounds of free speech 62

[Terratek]

This article popped up in my google feed. I thought it was interesting, a little funny and a little ridiculous.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/04/beaverton_man_claims_oregon_st.html

Being familiar with licensing laws, and being an engineer, I agree with the city. I can see how easily a lay person could buy the spin, though.

 

[IRstuff]

We're discussing the restriction on the term "engineer" and the anyone's ability to make use of engineering concepts, math, etc., and the ability to publicly lay claim to both.

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[MintJulep]

Freedom of speech means that you have the freedom to say anything you want without government censorship.

It DOES NOT mean freedom from the repercussions of your statements.

For example:

If someone exercises their right of free speech to tell a police officer "Yesterday I robbed the First Trust Bank on Main St." that does NOT provide immunity from prosecution for the crime committed.

This is exactly equal to the engineer thing.

 

[drawoh]

IRstuff,

The term "professional engineer" establishes your ability to make use of engineering concepts, math, etc. Some engineers drive trains. I suggest you spend some time on Reason's website to see why this issue interests them.

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JHG

 

[IRstuff]

"The term "professional engineer" establishes your ability to make use of engineering concepts, math, etc."

No, my 4 years in an engineering university establishes that, as does my 40 yrs in the industry and my job title.

"Professional engineer" means that they're licensed and under the purview of the licensing board.

I have neither desire nor need for either, but I do want to reclaim "engineer" as my title and "engineering" as my job description without fear of persecution by a licensing board.

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[GregLocock]

Ickzackerly. The boards co-opted an existing title and are now engaged in mission creep trying to stamp out its use by other people. Oh except for Microsoft because Microsoft would win by spending cubic dollars.



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[CheckerHater]

To summarize:

"For every expert there is an equal and opposite expert"
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