Flagnoting every print dimension - bad drafting practice?

[McLeod]

Some of our manufacturing and inspection staff are requesting that all prints in the company have every single attribute (dimension, note requirement, etc.) individually and sequentially labeled with flagnotes, so that they are more friendly to their inspection forms. Instinctively, the drafters, designers, and engineers in product development know that this is a Bad Thing, primarily because of the resulting clutter on the drawing and the inevitable revision nightmares. But are there any particular parts of ASME Y14 which directly or indirectly preclude such madness? I've been all over it and can't find anything which specifically addresses the rampant over-use of flagnotes or similar topic. Has anyone seen this put into practice? What were the engineers smoking when they agreed to it?

 

Please tell me that you're joking! This could be construed as cruel and unusual punishment. Good luck in changing their decision!

 

[bsharris]

McLeoad I am with you all of these note flags would make a drawing to cluttered. Common practice as well as common sense tells us that the only things that need doteflagged are the ones that are unclear to the reader. I see no usefulness in putting so much on the print. One possibility for appeasing them is to have them create and control a sheet 2 to acompany the drawing. This would be a sheet that the production team would control. They could make revisions to it any time they wanted. For instance, if your dwg had a revision level of A, their sheet would have a rev level of 1. They could potentially up rev their sheet to 5. This would allow the rev level to show as A5. The two sheets could change independently of each other. This way it would take some of the burden off of design/drafting and make both sides happy. I will continue to search for concrete answers for you. Good Luck!!!

 

[knobhead]

Hmm, you could argue that this is double-dimensioning, which I'm sure must be flagnoted in a spec somewhere as a gold-plated 'bad thing'.
Personally, if I was forced into such stipidity, I'd take things to there logical extension, and put so many notes on the drawings that it was totally unintelligible, and they tell you to put it back.
What we do here is exactly what bsharris suggests. Each drawing has two sheets, one with everything on it, and the other with just the dims that inspection need.