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"Al Gore is going to be seriously bummed out ..." … nope, he's already got his money, and his Nobel prize … but there's still milk in that cow, so he'll keep at it.

another day in paradise, or is paradise one day closer ?
 
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And thats another part of the problem Al Gore is cast in the same mold as Boris Johnson , D Trump , Truedope, and all the other self serving incompetants that call themselves politicians. Where are the Winston Churchills, the Franklin Roosevelts , the Margret Thatchers, or the John F Kennedys today??? You may or may not have agreed with their politics , or decisions , or policies but the world needs true leadership today like never before.
 
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Well as the OP, I must say I'm a bit disappointed in the poor quality of the debate here. And perhaps therin lies the main problem......an inability to recognise the POSSIBLE legitimacy of an opinion than isnt 100% in alignment with ones own.
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I am disappointed with the poor quality of the debate as well.

It seems that everybody agrees that single weather events are not significant evidence of climate change, one way or the other, but nonetheless we are not supposed to criticise a publication that is entirely based on a single weather event over a single region.

Anyone who thinks that extreme cold weather is not reported should just do a quick search of the Internet; it is widely reported.

And why bring Al Gore into it, if not as an attempt to discredit a pointy of view that differs from your own?

As for the paper at Climate Change Dispatch, that at least seems to be written by scientists, but those who like to adopt a true sceptical approach might like to look at:


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Doug Jenkins
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It is good to see some success in fighting censorship of skeptics:
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Did you actually read the link?

"The case has been repeatedly framed in media reports as one about academic freedom, or about the validity of the minority and controversial views held by Ridd about climate change and the health of the Great Barrier Reef.

Vasta made clear in his judgment in April those matters were not on trial.

“Some have thought that this trial was about freedom of speech and intellectual freedom,” he said. “Media reports have considered that this trial was about silencing persons with controversial or unpopular views.

“Rather, this trial was purely and simply about the proper construction of a clause in an enterprise agreement.”
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I don't post links without reading them.

But I have also read a lot more, including Judge Vasta's remarks in his ruling this week for damages. He is quoted as saying that the university had "incredibly...not understood the whole concept of intellectual freedom".

Vasta was also scathing in his criticism of JCU's behaviour in relation to Dr. Ridd's efforts to find further employment since the April Federal Circuit Court verdict.

James Cook University has a history of intimidating staff who don't toe the party line. They hounded the late Dr. Bob Carter from his position. He was also a climate skeptic.
 
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Well whatever James Cook University may or may not have done, clearly his views on climate change got plenty of exposure, as do those of many other people who call themselves sceptics.

I don't know what any of that has to do with the topic of this thread.

Doug Jenkins
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Not much. But if you want to keep these discussions on track, you need to take some lessons in herding cats.
 
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"Al Gore is going to be seriously bummed out ..." … nope, he's already got his money, and his Nobel prize … but there's still milk in that cow, so he'll keep at it.
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And he is milking away as we speak. Al has been a partner in the venture capital firm Kleiner Perkins, formerly known as Kleiner Perkins Caufield and Byers, since 2007. And he is making tens of millions of dollars every year on his firm's investments in "green" technology companies. I find it rather disingenuous that a person who is portrayed in the media as a crusader for such a cause is continuing to profit handsomely from its promotion.

And I will reiterate what I said in a previous thread on this subject:

I have a great deal of difficulty discussing the actual content of the "Green New Deal" with a straight face when it reads as though it was written by a 5th grader who is on heavy medication.

Regarding the topic of climate change, it was predicated above that "If we accept the conclusions as fact" then extreme measures are required on our part to immediately address it. Many of us environmentally conscientious individuals don't blindly accept the bastardization of the scientific method that has been wielded by the likes of Al Gore for political and personal gain as objective and convincing evidence that we are responsible for what is being referred to as global warming, climate change, anthropogenic climate change, or whatever else you choose to call it.
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Not that I'm a fan of Gore by any stretch of the imagination, but wouldn't that be an example of putting one's money where one's mouth is? Hard to blame a guy for that.

If you expect any venture or crusade to take place without money being made......that just seems silly and naive to me. Nothing will be done and no steps will be taken unless profits are to be gained, and they should be very easily gained in the arena or "green" technologies and innovations.

Higher sustainability and efficiency should be promoted and developed regardless of what you think the truth is with regard to CC. I would think this would be universal due to economics and even more so if you have the mind of an engineer.

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Higher sustainability and efficiency should be promoted and developed regardless
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THAT's highly unAmerican; some still believe in Manifest Destiny, that it's their God-given right to plunder the riches of the Earth without regard for the consequences. John Muir's quaint notion of protecting and preserving the environment and wildlife was an aberration; we dream of electric sheep...

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Not that I'm a fan of Gore by any stretch of the imagination, but wouldn't that be an example of putting one's money where one's mouth is? Hard to blame a guy for that.
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I actually had to read that twice to be sure that you weren't joking. Seriously??
 
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I've been trying to figure out what the argument is and I just can't figure it out.

He has his money and time invested in this cause/industry. He makes lots of money from it at least partly, if not largely, due to his influence. What would the joke be?

That he isn't an altruistic CC promoter with nothing to gain from its success or demise and only wants to help simply out of the goodness of his heart?

Andrew H.
 
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"That he isn't an altruistic CC promoter with nothing to gain from its success or demise and only wants to help simply out of the goodness of his heart?"

yep, pretty much sums it up

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