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good neighborhood, or better job? 2

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ivymike

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Nov 9, 2000
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I've got a great neighborhood. The commute is long-ish to my office (25 mins in the am, 45 mins in the pm) but there are about 30 neighbors who get together on a regular basis for social activities - we've got lots of kids the same age - and 5 or 10 of us hang out nearly every evening to have a beer or two or excercise while watching the kids. We'd definitely miss the neighborhood. My current job position is a bit demotivating for a variety of factors, and there are few realistic advancement or lateral paths internally in this vicinity.

Semi-official rumor says my next best opportunity is 1100 miles away, starting in about 6 months (same company). It's not a done deal, but more than one manager has mentioned it (it was first brought up 6 mo ago, and discussed more concretely over the last couple of weeks, including target dates). It would be a promotion to a supervisor role w/reporting engineers - the first of two hard jumps before being a "manager" in our internal parlance. This is a bump that some people try to get for 10 years (or even 30 in some cases)... and my manager has already explained that I shouldn't count on "walking" into the role (will have competition), and I should not try for it if I'm not going to take it when offered - then I could count on not getting another one. A big positive is that the supervisory experience would make me more portable in case a need arises in the future (the axe cut deep and missed me narrowly last year).

Wife isn't happy about it, but is willing to pack up and move again (we've only been in this house 26 months)... and we've got another kid due at about the time of the move - the neighborhood "support" would make the whole newborn thing much more manageable. (vs wife home alone w/newborn and older kid, and no nearby friends).

It's a tough one. Do I take the shot while I've got it, and give up the great outside life, or do I postpone any upward aspirations indefinitely to maintain my comfortable living situation?

 
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If your family is happy where you are, I'd do some kind of professional development and look local, inside or outside of your current employer. Night school, MS, MBA, study for the FE/PE, LEED, project management institute, Habitat for Humanity, whatever. Design with your family and spend a year or two cultivating the next big professional step that you will take for both yourself and your family. If they buy in, they will understand that your efforts are for them and support you. Cultivate relationships in the direction that you want to go, LinkedIn, schmoozing, ASME section meetings, etc. Join Rotary or a lodge. Try and find business relationships in your local hobby/spiritual/recreational communities. Good relationships & endorsements, documentable achievements & certificates that you can show your next boss will help more than wishing. Of course this means that you will have to sleep when you are dead.

The 3 months I spent studying for the FE were rough on my wife, but the upside was, I didn't go crazy from being unemployed, and have documented professional achievements (EIT, Entry level Photovoltaic Installer).

Bon Chance, at least you'll be trying.
 
Having recently moved to an island paradise for a better job with the wife being uprooted from friends and family I would say, think realy hard about making the move. If you are spending that much time at the new location, take the wife (and maybe the kids) along on the next trip and let her have the car to look around.

Peter Stockhausen
Senior Design Analyst (Checker)
Infotech Aerospace Services
 
"the wife being uprooted from ..... family"

In my case that was a blessing, and a necessity for my sanity.
 
At a previous job, wherein our division was being moved to Chicago, and my immediate manager declined to go, as it was clear that his wife wouldn't leave her extended family, and hence, he would be transferring by himself if he accepted.

So, my manager's manager said, "So what's the problem, you can always get another wife."

TTFN

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he's right, but it might cost more than the job can pay. perhaps those additional expenses could be included in the relocation package?
 
A couple of things in my mind...

26 months is not a lot of time to sink deep roots.

Is the current neighborhood typical or special? What's life like a mile or so away?

- Steve
 
26 months is not a lot of time to sink deep roots.
it's amazing how short a time it has been... but we only lived in the last place for 32 months, and 46 months in the one before that. Still keep in touch people from each place, although none have come to see us in Houston. If you never stay anywhere, you never sink any roots. We're off to a good start here... why transplant again?

What's life like a mile or so away?

They're all deadbeats who drive too fast and hate small children and pets.

 
It sounds like you don't want to move, judging by your last post.
So don't.
 
no, I don't really want to move. I'm starting to think that the right choice is to take whatever assignment I can get, preferably locally (and keep my insurance), then after the baby I'll stick around until I have an outside offer in hand. The work environment ("politics") in the new location is a bit much to handle from 1100 mi away, and I can't imagine how people deal with it up close every day.
 
>>I've got a great neighborhood. The commute is long-ish to my office (25 mins in the am, 45 mins in the pm) but there are about 30 neighbors who get together on a regular basis for social activities - we've got lots of kids the same age - and 5 or 10 of us hang out nearly every evening to have a beer or two or excercise while watching the kids. <<

Arlen, TX?

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We'd definitely miss the neighborhood. My current job position is a bit demotivating for a variety of factors, and there are few realistic advancement or lateral paths internally in this vicinity.

You could go redneck, like Khan did:
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we're not in Arlen, but I've pointed out to my neighbors that we might as well be. It's eerie sometimes. We're just missing a guy w/a Louisianna (Boomhower) accent.
 
hahah.. I even had dinner on the weekend with our Lao (from Laos) neighbors. Isn't that where Khan came from?
 
Houston is a big city not some one horse town. There are sure to be engineering opportunities for you as you need them. I grew up in a military family moving every 1 to 3 years. Let me tell you - it stunk! You are happy where you are. Stay there for the sake of your kids.
 
I am grateful that my wife stuck with me on a move out of NYC to Cincinnati. We lived there for 10 yrs and raised three kids there. When the VN war closed, we had to relocate, and Chicago was the next place. We tolerated it for 25 yrs and raised another kid for a total of four. Moving to my last job in Michigan was a good move because we had vacationed there. Enjoying moderate cost housing, moderate taxes and wonderful vacation and mini vacation spots.

We are north of the tornado belt [I hope], west of the hurricane belt, remote from earthquake zones, and removed from any megalopolis. We have nice cool summers and tolerable winters.
 
Plasgears,

Where's the fun in that. I live in Oklahoma and tornados are entertainment here. Some of us even chase them once in a while, though I've never caught one.

-Kirby

Kirby Wilkerson

Remember, first define the problem, then solve it.
 
And what would you do with it if you did catch one?

TTFN

FAQ731-376
 
so anyway, I told my boss that if any questions come his way, my preference is to stay here. we'll see how that goes for me, I guess.
 
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