stor138
Electrical
- Apr 19, 2015
- 2
We have a 30 MW generator connected to a steam turbine. The turbine is a steam extraction unit, with HP inlet steam (~600 psi), MP steam extraction port (~120 psi), and LP steam exhaust (~60 psi). There is a inlet valve and an extraction port valve. There is not a valve on the outlet port.
The existing PLC-based governor has the following controls (described only when grid-connected):
1 - load control (MW); controls inlet valve
2 - speed-droop control (turbine rpm); controls inlet valve
3 - backpressure control (psi); controls inlet valve
4 - extraction port pressure control (psi); controls extraction valve
Mode 1 is a cascade control loop which provides a speed set-point to the speed-droop loop. Mode 3 is the normal operating mode and controls only on pressure - it does not consider the unit speed. Mode 4 operates independently of the other loops.
We are having issues with compliance of the governor with the local regulations - the utility that the generator is installed in requires the governor to operate in droop at all times for system stability. Since this unit is normally in backpressure control, it will not normally respond to system frequency changes.
My questions are:
1 - is droop functionality while in exhaust pressure control an operating mode that should be expected for governors on extraction/exhaust turbines? From what I can tell, I believe that this should be standard, but can stand corrected.
2 - if droop functionality is expected to be in operation while the turbine controls exhaust pressure, how does the unit react on a sustained change in utility frequency, if the back-pressure control loop is modified to be cascaded into the speed-droop loop? When the inlet valve opens in response to the system frequency change, will the corresponding pressure change seen on the header result in a counter-acting of the droop action? Are there any governor control schemes that are recommended so that the response to a change in system frequency is sustained, not momentary?
3 - how is this control mode handled in off the shelf governors? From what I can tell, a Woodward 505E handles exhaust pressure control as a cascade into a speed loop. Does a Woodward have logic to also maintain the proportional response to a frequency change once the steam outlet pressure is off setpoint, so it is not reversed by the pressure loop?
4 - any suggestions or experience on how we might achieve compliance with the utility?
I would like to better understand how systems are traditionally configured so I can better understand this specific situation.
I hope this email is clear - please let me know if there is any missing information that would help with a reply.
The existing PLC-based governor has the following controls (described only when grid-connected):
1 - load control (MW); controls inlet valve
2 - speed-droop control (turbine rpm); controls inlet valve
3 - backpressure control (psi); controls inlet valve
4 - extraction port pressure control (psi); controls extraction valve
Mode 1 is a cascade control loop which provides a speed set-point to the speed-droop loop. Mode 3 is the normal operating mode and controls only on pressure - it does not consider the unit speed. Mode 4 operates independently of the other loops.
We are having issues with compliance of the governor with the local regulations - the utility that the generator is installed in requires the governor to operate in droop at all times for system stability. Since this unit is normally in backpressure control, it will not normally respond to system frequency changes.
My questions are:
1 - is droop functionality while in exhaust pressure control an operating mode that should be expected for governors on extraction/exhaust turbines? From what I can tell, I believe that this should be standard, but can stand corrected.
2 - if droop functionality is expected to be in operation while the turbine controls exhaust pressure, how does the unit react on a sustained change in utility frequency, if the back-pressure control loop is modified to be cascaded into the speed-droop loop? When the inlet valve opens in response to the system frequency change, will the corresponding pressure change seen on the header result in a counter-acting of the droop action? Are there any governor control schemes that are recommended so that the response to a change in system frequency is sustained, not momentary?
3 - how is this control mode handled in off the shelf governors? From what I can tell, a Woodward 505E handles exhaust pressure control as a cascade into a speed loop. Does a Woodward have logic to also maintain the proportional response to a frequency change once the steam outlet pressure is off setpoint, so it is not reversed by the pressure loop?
4 - any suggestions or experience on how we might achieve compliance with the utility?
I would like to better understand how systems are traditionally configured so I can better understand this specific situation.
I hope this email is clear - please let me know if there is any missing information that would help with a reply.