bridgebuster
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- Jun 27, 1999
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Has anyone lengthened an existing steel bridge? Google wasn't any help. Here's my dilemma:
I'm working on a design-build tender. The project involves a number of bridge replacements and bridge retrofits. On the retrofit bridges, the owner wants to lengthen the existing W33 stringers and keep the deck. And they don't want any sag and they don't want a rigid frame.
In the image below, the as-built bridge is cambered 3/4" to level out. One problem is trying to predict the deflection. The two professors (yes they are) who have been studying it this week don't really understand the problem. At first they're telling me the new deflection is 1 1/2", but it turned out that value is for the W33 with a completely new deck; although the net deflection would be about 3/4" (1.5" - original camber). Then they came up with a stiffened girder to hold the deflection to 3/4". To me that probably doesn't work because the girder has leveled out.
In my mind, 1)the stringer extension has to be fully shored when placing the deck, 2)a strongback has to be installed above each stringer to hold it in its vertical position while the stringer is stiffened, 3)after the shoring below the extension is released, the strongbacks can be released but it's still going to deflect, even if the original end of the stringer is jacked.
I think the only way to eliminate the sag, short of bridge replacement, is post-tensioning, which may not go over well with the owner.
I'm working on a design-build tender. The project involves a number of bridge replacements and bridge retrofits. On the retrofit bridges, the owner wants to lengthen the existing W33 stringers and keep the deck. And they don't want any sag and they don't want a rigid frame.
In the image below, the as-built bridge is cambered 3/4" to level out. One problem is trying to predict the deflection. The two professors (yes they are) who have been studying it this week don't really understand the problem. At first they're telling me the new deflection is 1 1/2", but it turned out that value is for the W33 with a completely new deck; although the net deflection would be about 3/4" (1.5" - original camber). Then they came up with a stiffened girder to hold the deflection to 3/4". To me that probably doesn't work because the girder has leveled out.
In my mind, 1)the stringer extension has to be fully shored when placing the deck, 2)a strongback has to be installed above each stringer to hold it in its vertical position while the stringer is stiffened, 3)after the shoring below the extension is released, the strongbacks can be released but it's still going to deflect, even if the original end of the stringer is jacked.
I think the only way to eliminate the sag, short of bridge replacement, is post-tensioning, which may not go over well with the owner.