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Help in headloss calculation for fire hydrant pump 2

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Asisraja D

Mechanical
Jan 3, 2024
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Hello professionals
we have planned to install fire hydrant system for our new plant and it contains 400KL static water tank and the pipelines layout i have shared here. i have calculated head loss for the entire piping system and i get large amount of pressure drop. i have attached my calculation sheet. i give you my calculation details below please review and explain me little bit in this.

Pipe diameter for main line = 150mm
Length of 150mm pipe is = 535.9 meters.
pipe diameter for branch connection = 100mm
Length of 100mm pipe is = 212.2 meters.
Static tank 400KL height is = 6.3 meters.
MOC of pipe is Mild steel so i took 0.045 as pipe roughness.
overall head loss is 5.71 bar. so (7-5.71 = 1.29 bar line pressure) This is very low pressure as per standards because we should maintain line pressure of 3 bar minimum.
Pump capacity as per standards = 2280 lpm , so pump capacity is 137 m3/hr. head is 70 meters as per vendor quotation.
Industry type : Fermentation & Chemical (API) Solvents used (chloroform, acetone,toluene)

As per IS 3844:1989 (Indian standards) industrial buildings above 15 meters but not exceeding 24 meters can have pump capacity of 2280 liters per minute of flow rate and pressure should be 3 kg/cm2 at fire hydrant line but we have faced huge head loss here. Does anyone help me if this much of head loss occurs then how can i achieve the required flow rate ? can i go for higher head for achieving this flow rate ? or else any other suggestions ?

i hope i can get your suggestions in this. Thank you all.

 
 https://files.engineering.com/getfile.aspx?folder=b738c35c-67fa-4864-be1d-7c3076f30e81&file=FERMACBIO_PRIVATE_LIMITED_Fire_Hydrant_System_Layout-2.pdf
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