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High corrosive fluid service, material selection

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Fixer.nwg

Mechanical
Jan 17, 2017
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Hello.

Currently I´m working on a piping design that will transport highly corrosive fluid with low pH at 210 degrees Celsius. I have been trying to determine what kind of material will be suitable for such applications.

The velocity of the fluid can be assumed to be 48 m/s. From my research such harsh conditions will cause significant problems with Stainless steels where there is highly anticipated to be local corrosion which leads to fatigues and cracks.

Reports I have read has suggested that fiberglass materials has excellence in such conditions with low head loss. But has also been discussing that high temperature services might disable our opportunity to chose such a material, another obstacle is the fact I cannot find such a material group in ASME B31.3 which is the code I'm using for this design.

I have been looking into carbon steels and looked into the much used A53 and A106, however I can now assume they will have significant material loss each year due to corrosion and erosion which might cause the facility to fail before its required life span.

I have not studied materials in detail and are unfamiliar with estimating rate of corrosion/erosion. I was sure such rates was decided empirically, however a few reports of studies in the field I found online suggest that the rate of corrosion can be estimated by linear regression.

So now I'm not quite sure how to proceed with my problem, I have been thinking of regulating the pH to slow down corrosion and erosion, according to studies the erosion greatly increases with the lowering of the pH, some reports suggested 10 times more erosion by lowering the pH from 3 - 2. The problem with adjusting the pH are the cost as the flow of new fluid will be continuous.

How would an experienced piping engineer attack such a problem?

Regards.

 
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An experienced piping engineer would find out what chemical, the concentration, the pressure, temperature and whatever-else-helps etc., then go ask his corrosion specialist, and possibly his metallurgist, what pipe material and coatings (if any) he should order. Otherwise you're simply stuck with looking up whatever you can find in the refernces on fluid & materials compatibility tables.
 
For crying out loud. What is the specific fluid ?? Water is corrosive to bare Ayer technically. Salt water is highly corrosive in the right conditions. Corrosion comes down to process fluid and operating variables pressure temp velocity etc. api 571 covers damage mechanisms and Nace provides detailed documents on specific damage mechanisms as well. A good piping enginnee will select a material that will last the anticipated service life.

API510,API570,API653,API577,API571,
API580, NBIC AI. A.S. Eng, BSME
 
A piping engineer would go and discuss this with an experienced materials engineer.

He or she might also look at ways to reduce a very high velocity - I can only assume this is some sort of dry gas?

If this "fluid" is a liquid, contains any sort of liquid or particles, then you might find you need some sort of ceramic lining to resist the erosional forces.

The duty to me sounds quite extreme so your standard materials won't cut the mustard.

I suspect some sort of very tough lining inside a metallic pipe might be required, but a lot depends on the details.

Even doing all of this your anticipated life might be measured in months or low numbers of years before replacement is required.



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This is everyday stuff in the refining world. Give me the process fluid I'll give you the info from my corrosion books.

API510,API570,API653,API577,API571,
API580, NBIC AI. A.S. Eng, BSME
 
Double post. See the answer on the corrosion engineering forum

Steve Jones
Corrosion Management Consultant


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The question there was framed "Estimating rate of corrosion". Here he is looking for the correct material. Is that one the duplicate???

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still, "Highly corrosive fluid" is too general of a statement. To break it down to the original question on "How would a piping engineer approach this?". The answer is, really what LI mentioned above. Go talk to a materials or corrosion engineer, or reference the acceptable codes and standards. NACE and API571 have some great information in them which offers material selection based upon its resistance to specified attack. If you post the fluid composition you will get better direction on where to start reading.

API510,API570,API653,API577,API571,
API580,AWS CWI, NBIC AI,BSME
 
The fluid composition is posted in the corrosion engineering thread.

Steve Jones
Corrosion Management Consultant


All answers are personal opinions only and are in no way connected with any employer.
 
SJones are correct, im sorry for not provoiding the fluid details here in this post.


The fluid contains following in mg/kg:

CO2: 56,7
H2S: 85,3
SiO2: 694,8
Na: 152,2
SO4: 18,9
 
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