How do I snap block to a point on view ??

[jack3108]

I have created a block, leader "black dot" and "base origin" on the top of each other and located where I want it (within the block)

How do I "snap on" this "base origin" (of the block) to a point on the view ??

The point on the view was created on the view as a midpoint on the line, which in turn was "snaped on" the ends of "edges of solid model".

I want the location to be acurate (snap on) not just "approximately" positionned.

(Actually the block came from ACAD dwg, part of machine, which I want to show on the SW assy dwg)

 

[SBaugh]

I don't think you can make a relationship to a block and a part edge or origin. I know you can't in SW04.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP

http://www.3dvisiontech.com

http://www.scottjbaugh.com

faq731-376

 

[jack3108]

I guess I wasn't kina clear - thou your answer still might be NO - you can not ...

Forget for a moment how I got a point on the view. It is there - and I want "origin of the block" (I think it's called Base point) to "snap on" (sit on the top of) the point of the view. It is a "physical" point ( an asterisk *).

 

[ctopher]

Have you tried dragging the point of the block to the sketch point?

 

[rockguy]

Ctopher is right. In SW2005 when inserting the block drag it over the point you want to snap to and you will see the curder change. I know it works,I have been doing it all day.

 

[jack3108]

>... Have you tried dragging the point of the block to the sketch point? >

SW2005 Windows XP

Yes, I have. It does not work. As I said earlier, the "base point" and the "leader 'black point' " are on the top of each other. On the top of that, within the block, I created a point seating on the top of the above.

When inserting the block on the view, the mouse coursor points correctly to the "black point" and the "base point" (I know that because they are located at the intersection of two block lines, which are visible when back to the view), and the block follows the mouse pointer when dragged, BUT I CAN NOT SNAP ON TO ANOTHER POINT THAT I CREATED ON THE VIEW

Simply, the "view point" is not selectable - that is it does not change the color when the mouse coursor is near by or even (visually) on top of it.

Also, the "block point" (created within the block) does NOT show when the block is being inserted to the view.

Additionally, the FILTER is grey (that is not-selectable), thus I can not select POINT and BLOCK in the filter bar.

Any clues what I am doing wrong ??

Thanks for any replies.

 

[ctopher]

Curious, are you using tools/sketch tool/move or modify?

 

[jack3108]

> Curious, are you using tools/sketch tool/move or modify?

Please elaborate, I don't uderstand.

When inserting the block, the block shows up on the view and when dragging, it follows up the mouse pointer - the problem is, the "view point" (an asterisk created on the view) is not selectable during the dragging process.

 

[jack3108]

Just thinking - mayby I should go some different route, something like create an Empty view, put the block there, then line up the views (by origin) - something like that ??

Just thinking loud

 

[SBaugh]

Jack,

OT here - You have the ability to use [ignore]

Please elaborate, I don't uderstand.

[/ignore] to quote somebody. Makes it easier to understand when your quoting someone:

Please elaborate, I don't uderstand.

Regards,



Scott Baugh, CSWP

http://www.3dvisiontech.com

http://www.scottjbaugh.com

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[SBaugh]

Have you activated your view? If you activate your view then the block (note, etc...) will follow that view around.

Regards,

Scott Baugh, CSWP

http://www.3dvisiontech.com

http://www.scottjbaugh.com

faq731-376

 

[jack3108]

If you activate your view then the block (note, etc...) will follow that view around.

Has nothing to do with following around - I just want the block feature (in the above case "base point") to SNAP ON (precisely, not approximatly) onto a view "feature" (in my case a point that was created on that view - an asterisk) - to SNAP ON WHEN INSERTING THE BLOCK ONTO A VIEW.

 

[ctopher]

do you have a screen capture to show us?

 

[rockguy]

When you create your block you have a definable origin point. It is blue. This is the point which will snap to drawing geometery on insert. You can not add a sketch point to your block definition and use that to control the placement of the block. When you insert the block if you drag the origin of the block over view geometry an automatic relation will show up.

 

[SBaugh]

But it will also give you the ability to attach your Block to the Origin.

1) I just made a block and attached to an Origin and it didn't stay attached. The reason is because the view was active.

2) So I activated my view, inserted the same block and attached to the origin. Now when I drag my view the Block goes with it and stays attached.

Regards,


Scott Baugh, CSWP

http://www.3dvisiontech.com

http://www.scottjbaugh.com

faq731-376

 

[jack3108]

When you create your block you have a definable origin point. It is blue.

Yes

This is the point which will snap to drawing geometery on insert.

Yes.

When you insert the block if you drag the origin of the block over view geometry an automatic relation will show up.

This is where the things get s.... up. I even activated the Quick Snap on Tool Bar, picked up an icon Middle ... and a simple block ended up Way Off - not where it was supposed to snap.

Now when I drag my view the Block goes with it and stays attached.

I am FARRRR away from that, I just want a block to be located properly on the view.

On a very general note - my first cad system was CADAM, in 1982, then CATIA, AutoCAD, CADKEY, and now SW.

Either I am icredibly stupid or SW is NOT very user friendly

 

[SBaugh]

Then activate the view (double clicking or lock view focus) attach it to something in the drawing view (Point, origin, I don't care) and the block will stay there.

I don't know what else to tell you but you can't add relationships to a drawing view or items inside a drawing whether it be a sketch or not.

I think your first problem is that you wtill think your in AutoCAD or Cadkey. Your in SW and you miust forget all that to use SW.

Regards

Scott Baugh, CSWP

http://www.3dvisiontech.com

http://www.scottjbaugh.com

faq731-376

 

[rockguy]

Yes, click the view you want to insert the block in. Drag the block in from the task pane design browser (SW2005). The block comes sliding in and the cursor is attached to the origin. Drag the cursor and block over the end point of a line or mid point, etc. You will see the curser change to display a relation. Drop the block.

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

Either I am icredibly stupid or SW is NOT very user friendly

A very limiting statement considering the vast majority of people find SW very user friendly ... which doesn't leave a good alternative for you

Have you tried recreating the block in SW? (yes I know you shouldn't have to ... but have you tried?)

Also, I'm curious as to why you would want to create a simple leader with a "black dot" as a block. SW can create that style leader for you & allow you to place it wherever you want.

 

[CorBlimeyLimey]

jack3108

OK I just tried at home & have the same problem as you, but I know I have done this before at work ... I will check tomorrow.
I am using an ATI Radeon 7000 at home & a nVidia FX500 at work, both using SW04-SP2.1 on XP-SP1

What version of SW-SP, video card & OS are you using?