how many days can someone miss before getting fired? 1

[Senselessticker]

So we have this CAD operator who was hired a couple of months ago. I had suggested to my boss (who is NOT a good engineer and has no backbone), that he should interview this guy "in person" before offering him a job. Anyway....he offered the job to this guy over the phone without ever meeting him in person.

This guy missed his 1st two days of work. Yes, he showed up 2 days AFTER he was suppoed to start....car trouble was his reason....

He is horrible at CAD....and I mean really bad. He generally only stays at work for about 2 hours at a time, dissappears for 2 or 3 hours at a time, and argues with every engineer in the group (except his/our boss) about virtually every task or redline we ask him to do. Sometimes he misses entire days of work without calling in at all. Sometimes he shows up at 8am, stays till about 9am, then goes MIA till about an hour before quitting time.

Anyway....tomorrow he will have been MIA from work for an entire week. Last time anyone ever heard from or saw him was early Wednesday morning.....one week ago.

Besides my peers at work privately discussing our concerns about this guy (at lunch, behind closed doors, etc..), I've been approached by a hand full of folks who work for a completely different company (but who share cubeville with me).... "What's the story on this guy?"...."He's weird"...."He gives me the creeps"....etc.. etc..


Assuming he happens to shows up tomorrow, and my boss does not initiate some kind of disciplinary action (which I fully expect will be the case)...

Should I :

a) confront my boss and let him know that I think he has an obligation to the company to initiate some kind of formal discipline action.

b) turn my head as if it's "none of my business"

c) tell my boss that if he does not initiate some kind of action, that I will make a call to HIS boss explaining the situation.

d) do not confront my boss and just make the call back to the corporate office (where I relocated from and where I know virtually every VP)

My boss has 3 months with the company. I have 3 years. I have zero faith in my bosses professional abilities what so ever, and its general knowledge that I'm only "serving time" in my current position before moving on to bigger and better things within the company.

My peers and I believe this guy (CAD operator) to have either a very seriuos mental condition, or some kind of very seriuos drug problem. And all of us expect that our boss will take no action and just turn his head to this situation....

What to do?

 

[monkeydog]

BigH,
This is what I call job security!!!!!

 

[jmw]

We had one employee who acquired the nick-name "Sick Note" to reflect his frequent absences.
I think he did actually resign and find another job, not simply not return.
Another guy had no time management skills whatsoever. He was a service engineer and while his boss would always be waiting outside the clients gates eating his packed breakfast long before the factory opened, this guy would sometimes arrive mid-afternoon for an 8am appointment.
When they finally canned him, it took them a further year to get his expenses report in so they could pay him. Since he had a lot of overseas visits also, I guess this would have been a pretty impressive expenses statement.

In this guys case it was a shame it came out that way since, when he did arrive, he always showed that he was an excellent service engineer.
I have no regrets at seeing the useless types disappear.
I wish, some-when in a log career, that I could have seen this end for a brown-nosers, but have never had that rare privilege .. has anyone seen it?

JMW

http://www.ViscoAnalyser.com

 

[HgTX]

We had an employee disappear for a month, at which point he was terminated. Then he was hired by one of our suppliers. Then he quit the supplier with no notice. Recently, said supplier ran into him pumping gas. Supplier sez to me, "Karma's a bitch."

Hg

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[IRstuff]

JMW,

Don't think that really happens a whole. People are loathe to create a scene. That's why some many people get away with absurdly rude behavior on the freeway.

I saw someone cut off another car in the right turn lane from the lane to the left this morning. No response from anyone. What people don't realize is that not responding to insults cause a cumulative burden that is eventually released rather violently. It also encourages scofflaws to continue on their merry way, sneering at the sods that allow themselves to trod on.

There, I feel much better, even though I was the injured party.

TTFN

FAQ731-376

 

[SomptingGuy]

This thread is starting to remind me of that Not The Nine O'Clock News sketch where the shop steward is defending the case of a print shop worker who faces the axe just because he's dead.

 

[woodengineer]

If you feel this strongly on this topic, I am sure some of your peers share your frustration. As a group, talk your immediate supervisor. If you are not satisfied, as a group, escalate the issue.

woodengineer

 

[woodengineer]

A month has passed...what ever happened to the CADD operator?

woodengineer

 

[ShaggyPE]

CAD guy has finally been terminated. Is been the only time within my professional career that everyone seems relieved after someone is terminated.

The guy was probably the worst employee I've EVER encountered. And I worked in the resturant business for a decade and got to encounter some real losers! I just feel bad for the next group of engineers that this guy tries to scam...

Its up there on July 7.

 

[ShaggyPE]

Scratch that, June 7.