llgenocidell
Mechanical
- Oct 15, 2007
- 2
Sorry, that my English language is not good but I will try.
In combine cycle power plant system, the condensate make-up system shall be provided to condenser to accommodate for HRSG(Boiler)blowdown and others cycle loss.
Please see the attached file for system diagram.
Conceptual design
Normal make-up: Flow 10 m3/h
The make-up water during normal make-up shall be provided to condenser from condensate storage tank using difference between condenser vacuum (0.1 bara) and water level of condensate storage tank by gravity.
Condensate transfer pump (CTP) will be stand-by in normal make-up operation.
Emergency make-up: Flow 290 m3/h (approximate plant start-up 1 time/year)
I designed CTP: Capacity = 320 m3/h, TDH = 50 m3/h.
In this stage, CTP shall be started-up to supply water to condenser for replacing the much blowdown in power plant start-up.
Condensate storage tank capacity: 500 m3
Total make-up quantity during start-up: 400 m3/start-up
Sequence of power plant operation
Start-up operation --> Normal operation --> Shut down
After CTP supply make-up water (400m3) in plant start-up via condenser emergency makeup line by flow 290 m3/h. CTP would need to continue operation after start-up to supply condenser normal make-up water, until condensate storage tank water level requires for gravity make-up is reached. So CTP discharge flow excess to condenser make-up requirement and may be operate lower than CTP’s minimum flow need to be recirculated. This would require a minimum flow line.
The condensate storage tank make-up system is not enough capacity to supply water for keeping water level instantly.
In my opinion, I would like to design this line by using the relief valve and multi-stage orifice. Base on the consideration below.
Continuous bypass flow: CTP capacity will be increased to always keep the minimum Flow and CTP may be operate 1 time /year.
Automatic bypass with control valve: High cost (Electrical & Control instrument)and CTP may be operate 1 time /year.
Automatic recirculation valve(Yarway): High cost when we compare with relief valve.
I do not have experience about the pump minimum flow design by the relief valve and muti-stage orifice because I just graduated for 1 year ago.
My Question
1. Please advise that how to design the pump minimum flow line
(relief valve and multi-stage orifice).
CTP Shut of Pressure = 70 meter of water
Operating pressure = 50(TDH) + 8 (Static head of tank) = 58 meter of water
Pressure @200 m3/h (60% of BEP) = 75 meter of water (include tank static head)
Pressure @150 m3/h (manufacturer minimum flow) = 76 meter of water (include tank static head)
My design concept.
I can ensure the constant flow of normal make-up by control valve operation and emergency make-up flow is greater than the CTP minimum flow.
I will design that CTP operate at 200 m3/h (normal make-up 10 m3/h, reicir. flow 190 m3/h) and set the relief valve open at pressure = 75 meter of water.
To adjust the recirculation flow=190 m3/h, I will increase the pressure loss of recirculation line correspond with the inlet pressure = 75 meter of water by using the fix multi-stage orifice.
CTP will be operated with bypass flow via recirculation line for 50 hour because the make-up water flow very small (approx. 21 m3/h)
My Question
Base on your experience
2. Can you accept my design concept?
3. What’s the acceptation velocity in recirculation line for pipe diameter design?(with consider cavitaiton)
4. How to calculation/selection about the orifice and multi-stage orifice?
5. Base on my design concept, Is the variable orifice necessary to control constant flow of this line? In case, the inlet pressure is not 75 meter of water.
6. Please advise to design this line by using Automatic recirculation valve (Yarway).
In combine cycle power plant system, the condensate make-up system shall be provided to condenser to accommodate for HRSG(Boiler)blowdown and others cycle loss.
Please see the attached file for system diagram.
Conceptual design
Normal make-up: Flow 10 m3/h
The make-up water during normal make-up shall be provided to condenser from condensate storage tank using difference between condenser vacuum (0.1 bara) and water level of condensate storage tank by gravity.
Condensate transfer pump (CTP) will be stand-by in normal make-up operation.
Emergency make-up: Flow 290 m3/h (approximate plant start-up 1 time/year)
I designed CTP: Capacity = 320 m3/h, TDH = 50 m3/h.
In this stage, CTP shall be started-up to supply water to condenser for replacing the much blowdown in power plant start-up.
Condensate storage tank capacity: 500 m3
Total make-up quantity during start-up: 400 m3/start-up
Sequence of power plant operation
Start-up operation --> Normal operation --> Shut down
After CTP supply make-up water (400m3) in plant start-up via condenser emergency makeup line by flow 290 m3/h. CTP would need to continue operation after start-up to supply condenser normal make-up water, until condensate storage tank water level requires for gravity make-up is reached. So CTP discharge flow excess to condenser make-up requirement and may be operate lower than CTP’s minimum flow need to be recirculated. This would require a minimum flow line.
The condensate storage tank make-up system is not enough capacity to supply water for keeping water level instantly.
In my opinion, I would like to design this line by using the relief valve and multi-stage orifice. Base on the consideration below.
Continuous bypass flow: CTP capacity will be increased to always keep the minimum Flow and CTP may be operate 1 time /year.
Automatic bypass with control valve: High cost (Electrical & Control instrument)and CTP may be operate 1 time /year.
Automatic recirculation valve(Yarway): High cost when we compare with relief valve.
I do not have experience about the pump minimum flow design by the relief valve and muti-stage orifice because I just graduated for 1 year ago.
My Question
1. Please advise that how to design the pump minimum flow line
(relief valve and multi-stage orifice).
CTP Shut of Pressure = 70 meter of water
Operating pressure = 50(TDH) + 8 (Static head of tank) = 58 meter of water
Pressure @200 m3/h (60% of BEP) = 75 meter of water (include tank static head)
Pressure @150 m3/h (manufacturer minimum flow) = 76 meter of water (include tank static head)
My design concept.
I can ensure the constant flow of normal make-up by control valve operation and emergency make-up flow is greater than the CTP minimum flow.
I will design that CTP operate at 200 m3/h (normal make-up 10 m3/h, reicir. flow 190 m3/h) and set the relief valve open at pressure = 75 meter of water.
To adjust the recirculation flow=190 m3/h, I will increase the pressure loss of recirculation line correspond with the inlet pressure = 75 meter of water by using the fix multi-stage orifice.
CTP will be operated with bypass flow via recirculation line for 50 hour because the make-up water flow very small (approx. 21 m3/h)
My Question
Base on your experience
2. Can you accept my design concept?
3. What’s the acceptation velocity in recirculation line for pipe diameter design?(with consider cavitaiton)
4. How to calculation/selection about the orifice and multi-stage orifice?
5. Base on my design concept, Is the variable orifice necessary to control constant flow of this line? In case, the inlet pressure is not 75 meter of water.
6. Please advise to design this line by using Automatic recirculation valve (Yarway).