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How to measure hole diameter?

burnswt

Mechanical
Apr 28, 2025
6
Situation:
I have an assembly made up four layers of different material laminated together, the resultant thru screw clearance holes are toleranced like this: 1745847825932.png

Datum A is the flat bottom of the plate (perp to the thru holes)
Datum B is a locating hole pep to A
Datum C is a slot aligned with B and perp to A

I have created a functional gage to check the 10 thru holes sized at 0.152" + (extra to account for gage stack up)

The four layers are often shifted relative to each other, resulting in a "tilted" thru hole
The assembly sometimes fails GO/NO-GO gage check at the small size
The assembly usually passes the functional gage check
Lets assume that the holes in the four layers are at the maximum size and the relative locations are assembly process limited

Questions:

If the part passes the functional gage check for the VC then does the diameter even matter?
How do I properly measure and report the diameter? Is it as simple as the largest pin that will fit thru the assembly, regardless of tilt? Or, should the reported diameter be the largest pin that will fit while perpendicular to datum A (see picture of cross section below)?

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The size (diameter) control is not orientation-constrained.
Assuming the drawing is per ASME Y14.5, size limits are the max and min. distances between opposed points (as could be evaluated by inside micrometer or caliper inside jaws), and additionally Rule #1 of perfect form at MMC, which is also part of the size (+/-) requirement, means a manually inserted and unconstrained GO gage of minimum hole size (MMC) must pass.
 
The size (diameter) control is not orientation-constrained.
Assuming the drawing is per ASME Y14.5, size limits are the max and min. distances between opposed points (as could be evaluated by inside micrometer or caliper inside jaws), and additionally Rule #1 of perfect form at MMC, which is also part of the size (+/-), requirement means a manually inserted and unconstrained GO gage of minimum hole size (MMC) must pass.
Burunduk
I concurr however , however the holes has to be measured as one attribute. Then the true position as an other attribute. Done this many times. Correct?
 

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