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Hybrid Plain/Reinforced Concrete Strip Footing 1

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waytsh

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Jun 10, 2004
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Hi All,

I have a situation where I am trying to resist huge lateral thrusts from a large PEMB clearspan. For reasons I won't go into we are not able to use cross ties and I am using an independent moment-resisting foundation. Due to the large lateral loads I am utilizing a continuous strip footing down the sidewalls. I supposed you could also call this a mat footing or a two-way combined footing. I am not really sure where one definition ends and another begins. Just to give you an idea of the profile, it is going to be 6' wide, 4' thick, and 172' long with a 2'-6" deep soil shear key under it. Columns will be at 25' on center and the foundation will extend beyond the endwall columns. The size is being dictated by the stability requirements.

The design will need to be in accordance with ACI 318-14 so even though my flexural stresses are very low I will still need to size the rebar on each face to 0.0018Ag. For most of the foundation this is going to be substantial overkill. In order to provide a more economical design I am considering the following:

In the areas where the stresses are low (between the columns), I plan to analyze as a plain concrete per Chapter 14 and just specify minimum T&S (0.0018Ag split between the two faces). The areas under the columns exceeds the flexural stress limits for plain concrete so I will treat as reinforced and use the minimum 0.0018Ag per face. Bars in this area will be fully developed into the plain concrete analysis sections.

My question is whether or not it is permissible to use this type of hybrid approach? Is there a better approach that I am missing? I welcome your thoughts and input.

Thank you!

 
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Hi dik. For constuctability the contractor did not want to exceed the 6' width. He is then planning to drop in a mini track hoe to excavate the shear key.

I am relying heavily on the passive strength of the soil and in order to generate enough of it I need the full length between the columns. Granted the extra weight of the footing in your suggestion would add more friction resistance but the numbers I had run shown it to be insufficient. The drawback with what I am doing is that I need to consider the lateral "span" of the footing since it will now basically be a beam on elastic foundation in the lateral direction. This is forcing me to add bars on the vertical faces of the grade beam as well to resist the lateral flexure.
 
Has anyone done a costing on the project. It seems like the contractor is driving the work without regards to cost. Where is this being constructed?

Dik
 
Im with dik here.
Wouldnt bet on a shear key in this usage also (unless its some sort of rock). Some sort of movement (imo hard to calculate here) has to happen in orded for passive resistance to develop.Is this accaunted for in steel design?
Sorry to steal thread, im interested in others opinion.
 
Hi Dik. The contractor is also partial owner and is keenly aware of the costs. I don't want to get into all the ins and outs of that aspect of this project. I would like to keep focused on the question of the "hybrid" analysis in regard to the determination of the reinforcing. Thanks!
 
I would concur dik; there's gotta be a "better" way.

Still, I've often worked with contractors who are keenly aware of costs and because of deals or pricing or equipment available to them (etc.) they were able to brute force certain things to be cheaper than other "normal" options. Plus, if anything, OP's contractor can't complain about the engineering design increasing cost or time as it was their concept.

Ian Riley, PE, SE
Professional Engineer (ME, NH, MA) Structural Engineer (IL)
American Concrete Industries
 
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