Yordif
Chemical
- Aug 1, 2003
- 31
This is kind of an instrumentation / metaturgy / process questions but I think refining may be the best place to ask it.
Hydrogen migration is a normal occurance in hydrocrackers. The explanation that I have heard is that elemental hydrogen can pass through a metal structure where it may bond with with something or meet up with another hydrogen atom and from gaseous hydrogen. In an FCC this goes hand in hand with Ferric Cyanide formation and leads to metal blistering. In the old hydrocrackers, your temperature measurement system was multipoint TC assembly in a pipewell. The pipewells over time could pressure up to say 3 or 4 hundred PSI and then usually had a system for venting.
The new measurment systems invovled heavy walled TC's that are out in the active catalyst. Is there any way to quantify if there could be some hydrogen migration and how much? There is proabably about 15% or so void space in the TC with the rest taken up with magnesium oxide or the TC conductors. Does anyone know any industry experts that I might get in touch with that could help define the phenomeon? I certainly would be happy to talk with anyone who might have experience or has written a related paper.
Also is hydrogen migration, say through stainless steel, a function of hydrogen partial pressure and/or temperature?
Thanks for your help.
Hydrogen migration is a normal occurance in hydrocrackers. The explanation that I have heard is that elemental hydrogen can pass through a metal structure where it may bond with with something or meet up with another hydrogen atom and from gaseous hydrogen. In an FCC this goes hand in hand with Ferric Cyanide formation and leads to metal blistering. In the old hydrocrackers, your temperature measurement system was multipoint TC assembly in a pipewell. The pipewells over time could pressure up to say 3 or 4 hundred PSI and then usually had a system for venting.
The new measurment systems invovled heavy walled TC's that are out in the active catalyst. Is there any way to quantify if there could be some hydrogen migration and how much? There is proabably about 15% or so void space in the TC with the rest taken up with magnesium oxide or the TC conductors. Does anyone know any industry experts that I might get in touch with that could help define the phenomeon? I certainly would be happy to talk with anyone who might have experience or has written a related paper.
Also is hydrogen migration, say through stainless steel, a function of hydrogen partial pressure and/or temperature?
Thanks for your help.