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Impact to frequent load/unload cycles on rotary screw air compressors?

YungPlantEng

Chemical
Jan 19, 2022
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Have two 100 HP rotary screw air compressors that modulate via loading/unloading. Last compressor analysis indicated very frequent load/unload cycles (maybe once a minute per compressor). This is because we don’t regulate pressure after the compressors and various processes use a lot of it.

Am I underrating the potential issues this causes? We deal with significant oil carryover but I wasn’t sure if the switch between loading/unloading would really impact that.
 
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1.5 minutes of max flow. I don’t think they’re inadequately sized but since the pressure isn’t reduced from compressor pressure we’re very susceptible to high use periods.
 
So what is your dead band on the compressors?

Can you increase it?
 
Hi,
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Pierre
 

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You may have to install backpressure regulators on some of the high transient usages if these users can manage with a reduced supply. Backpressure regulator setpoint at each of these high users should be a little lower than the LOAD setting for the compressors.
 
Rotary air compressors operating in 1 operation + 1 standby configuration employs a load/unload valve being connected in parallel at the suction piping side. They help deal with frequent load/unload without adversely impacting compressor or motor from frequent start/stop.

Remember motors are designed for a fixed number of starts per hour.
 
I am not talking about turning the motor on and off. I am talking about the action of loading & unloading itself (switching of the unload valve at the suction) and whether the frequency of that can contribute to issues like oil carry-over, etc. Gut says yes because I've seen cases where it swaps from unload to load and then the temperature rapidly increases before stabilizing.
 
Oil carryover in compressed air is unavoidable in oil flooded machines, but becomes excessive due to corrosion of carbon steel internal components of the onboard oil-air separator. Ask for a replacement separator with full SS316 if this is the case.
 
Hi,
The reason why we are using oil free compressor in API manufacturing process.
example attached.
Pierre
 

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