Is FE/EIT needed for someone with Ph.D? 4

[ThingsLearner]

One of my friend at school told me that if someone has Ph.D. he/she deos not need to take the FE exam. She said this is a new policy by NCEES. I could not find anything about this on the oficial website for FE.

Has anyone heard about this?

 

[abusementpark]

It does bother me when I have professors who don't have PE's or have at least spent a few years in the field. These guys usually have a horrible grasp of what is practical.

 

[Lion06]

abusementpark-
I agree 100%. I am taking an advanced structural mechanics class right now. The professor is extremely intelligent, but has never worked in industry and doesn't have much of an appreciation for what is practical in a real engineering office. The theory is great, but there really needs to be some practical aspect to most, if not all, of the material presented.

 

[GregLocock]

Can you give an example of "doesn't have much of an appreciation for what is practical in a real engineering office"?

Becasue I'd have to say that in structures I have used most of my uni classes subsequently, so it'd be shame to restrict the classes to a lowest common denominator of what industry uses. And in dynamics we do stuff now that would have been beyond the imaginings of academics in 1979.

I do agree with your general point, unworldly profs are less than helpful.



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[Lion06]

Sure, we were doing continuously supported axial members toward the beginning of the class and we had a problem with a plate being bolted to concrete with an axial load on the plate and the bolts in shear. We modeled it as continuously supported and had an assigned value of k (spring stiffness) for the bolts. After the problem, I asked exactly what k represents for the bolts (since it clearly isn't a spring). I asked if it was a shear stiffness (similar to a flexural stiffness in K/in) and he was not able to communicate to me exactly what it was. He also indicated that he wasn't sure how you would actually get the number for a design problem, he said this of soil k values as well.
Having an appreciation for what is practical in a real engineering office, in my opinion, might be to have some sort of idea of how to approximate some values based on geotech properties......... or something.
Just saying This is how you do the problem, but I can't tell you how to arrive at or estimate any of the parameters involved doesn't make it easy to use what you are learning in class. I mean it is great to understand the theory and be able to do the calcs if called upon (when handed all of the parameters involved), but if, at the end of the day, you can't attain (or estimate) what those parameters are in a real world problem........... it doesn't do you much good.

 

[GregLocock]

Well, bolts do have an axial stiffness, and it is a contributor to the joint stiffness, which in itself is a significant property of a robust joint, if the loads are primarily in shear, and taken by the friction of the joint, rather than directly bearing on the bolt. For instance, someone who is designing subframes for cars would want to know about that sort of thing.

However as you say it does seem odd to use an example from one industry and then not know where some of the input numbers come from.





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