It appears that the Marines may have 'misplaced' an F-35 figther jet... 7

[3DDave]

Ahh - still fighting the Confederacy? They have IFF and transponders. They violated the FAA guidelines that would see someone with a small foam replica put in jail for doing the same during peace-time operations. Of recent the FAA has made it possible for local law enforcement to accost any flying-model hobbyist at any time, with potentially lethal outcome of not playing SimonSays - You Are Dead. Look up Daniel Shaver who was killed for having threatening sweat pants that slipped down while he was begging not to be killed.

 

[TugboatEng]

Are we allowed to speak so negatively of the protected Pete Buttigiege?

 

[davefitz]

aound 1991, during the Clinton administration and after the Waco tragedy, a us air force pilot went rogue and flew an armed jet around Denver, threatening to kill Clinton. They had trouble finding that jet, but I guess they solved it without a public summary. In any case, I had thought the military had decided to add a tracking device to US military jets as long as they are in US airspace. Perhaps the F-35 jet did not activate the required beacon.Without such a beacon or remote self destruct accessory, there could be a repeat of the rogue behavior from 1991.

"...when logic, and proportion, have fallen, sloppy dead..." Grace Slick

 

[Brian Malone]

Isn't this thread about the engineering and operation of an F-35 airplane? Certainly, some may have an opinion but isn't that supposed to be put in a different part of the forum?

 

[JohnRBaker]

The latest reporting:

How did it take the Pentagon 28 HOURS to find missing F-35 that had crashed in a field 80 miles from base? Mystery surrounds loss of $80M stealth fighter - as unearthed study raised fears jet could be HACKED by enemy

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-base-charleston-stealth-fighter-hackers.html

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

 

[LittleInch]

Pretty much an engineering failure if you don't know where your crashed aircraft is.

I'm a little surprised the second plane didn't just follow it.

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[JohnRBaker]

I suspect that the pilot of the second plane, that his job was to make sure the the first pilot was OK and that he made it safely to the ground.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

 

[LittleInch]

Not sure I really want a plane buzzing around me whilst I'm dangling under a parachute. Plus the difference in velocity once someone ejects compared to a fighter he would be a couple of miles away at least by the time he could turn back.

Anyway he clearly didn't, but knowing where the plane went would have been the bigger possible damage threat.

Remember - More details = better answers
Also: If you get a response it's polite to respond to it.

 

[hokie66]

Not a good time for Marine aviation. They lost an MV22 Osprey near Darwin less than a month ago, 3 dead and a number wounded. Coincidentally, my wife and I saw that very aircraft performing in an airshow a week before.

 

[spsalso]

I'm just now part ways into a Youtube presentation on this subject by Ward Carroll, a (former?) Navy flyer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU82Q-Nq-dU

The first 4 1/2 minutes are unrelated to the topic.

He is a very good source for mostly Navy aviation news. I recommend him highly.



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[Brian Malone]

A little sideline on the odd description of the location of the debris field being 'two hours north-east of Joint Base Charleston" - this was not totally some media outlets dumbing down the news. It was the information provided by military officials from the base. In essence, slight obsfucation to delay a swarm of looky-loos and souvenir seekers from descending on the exact location.

From what I have seen in reports, the transponder is optional for military planes and the pilot either wasn't able to activate it before ejecting or forgot to do so (some of you may have already said this but if you have used acronyms or jargon, I would not know).

Realistically, the difficulty in finding the plane shows the stealth technology works. Right? Otherwise, civilian radar systems would have had some record of the two planes and shown the final errant flight path of the pilot-less plane. This is not quite an engineering failure but a slight embarrassment for the Marine Corp to have to ask for public assistance.

 

[cranky108]

On the same type of thing, the Navy just found the Akagi near Midway.
How many years has it been?

 

[verymadmac]

Military aircraft are generally exempt from FAA flight recorder and beacon requirements; just imagine being shot down over enemy lines and your plane starts beeping for all parties to find it, and you.

You mean like the time they put new ECM kit on Republic of China Air Force's U-2 and the only aircraft that wasn't shoot down the one with the faulty ECM.

 

[spsalso]

Here's Ward Carroll's next piece on this matter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uqjPzBDgxo

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[waross]

Found it.
It's sitting on the knoll to the right.

We can't find the Key-Fob to turn off "Stealth Mode".

--------------------
Ohm's law
Not just a good idea;
It's the LAW!

 

[spsalso]

Here's a picture of the crash site:

Yup, still in stealth mode.



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