IT IS TRUE THAT...?

DAYS AGO I HAD AT MY COMPANY 2 GUYS THAT REPRESENT A COMPANY IN HOUSTON THAT SELLS CAD PACKAGES FROM SW. A COMMENT THAT THEY MADE WAS THAT THE GUY WHO CREATED PRO-E IS NOW THE DEVELOPER OF SW? IS THIS TRUE DOES ANYONE KNOWS IS LAST NAME IS LIKE "PAYNE" OR SOMETHING I AM CURRENTLY TRYING TO DECIDE ON WHAT TO BUY BUT I WANT TO CHECK IF ALL THE INFORMATION THESE GUYS GAVE ME IS TRUE AND IF SO THEN I WILL GO WITH SW....THANKS IN ADVANCE

 

[SBaugh]

It's true!!

From my understanding there was more than one person, but "Payne" is the man that came up with the idea. These guys were Pro\E Programmers that started their own Business of making a windows enviroment 3D software Package which is SW. They sold SW to Dassault systems a few years ago. Last thing I heard about the man that created SW, is that he was working on the Acis Kernel that Dassault System bought last year I beleive.

This is the short story, but the truth from where I sit.



Best Regards,
Scott Baugh, CSWP
credence69@REMOVEhotmail.com

http://home.insightbb.com/~scott.baugh/

 

[BBJT]

I think the name is Michael Payne that you are referring too. When I worked for a Var that sold SolidWorks that was one of selling points. The key word in this is "selling".
He left Pro-E to create a more user windows friendly MCAD package, was the story. So yes it is true.

Coming from a users stand point, since you are going to buy SW because it is true, I think you will be happy with your decission.

BBJT CSWP

 

I just attended SW essentials training this week. We were also told that The Pro-E guy started SW. The people that told us this were training not selling.

 

[APPENG]

WEll this is absolutely true, the guys that developed SolidWorks indeed used to be Pro-E developers. They had ideals of making a nice user friendly package and met with too much resistance to change at PTC so there ya go! Regards,
Jon
jgbena@yahoo.com

 

[alexsasdad]

I found a comparison on the web. So you might check out this website for some helpful information.

Regards,

Mike

 

[DetroitPickles]

Alexasdad,

Please don't buy SW just because the developer or one of them came from PTC (Pro/E) and you verified that the SW guys didn't lie to you.

See (being a former VAR), they (more than likely) DID lie to you, at some point. That is why I am FORMER. I couldn't lie. I could stretch, but not out and out lie. Oh, and I didn't do "canned" demos.

I assume your pretty sharp and you will or have actually tried the software to see if it does what YOU want it to.

Mr. Pickles

 

[DetroitPickles]

Opps, sorry, I meant to address to MetalFabricatorTX, who posted originally.

Sorry about that Alesasdad...

Mr. Pickles

 

[OLDSEUser]

I worked for a SW competitor for many years. The story is true and false. Steve Hirshtick (sp?)was the main man behind SW, and yes he was at PTC until he became, shall we say, dis-enchanted.
Michael Payne was the original Marketing Director for SW. I was never 'clear' where he came from. He could have been PTC, but I don't know.
When SW was bought, they both had contracts contingent on them staying for a least 3 years.

Guess what...3 years is up and you can't find either one of them at SW...with that said...SW is still a company with good leadership and business vision.

In your case, it sounds like the VAR probably knows little about the origins of SW. Listen to the others...do an evaluation before picking ANY software...

 

[OLDSEUser]

On furhter thought, maybe it was John Hirshtick (sp?). I have been gone to long ..

 

OK,

Jon Hirstick and most of the other senior management that started SolidWorks in 94 came from ComputerVision (CV). Mike Payne was the VP of Software Development at PTC and joined the new team in a similar position. I honest don't know if Mike "invented" parametric solid modeling. He certainly led the team that developed it.

Jon has gone off to enjoy the fruits of his labors and Mike now is president of Spatial. This tends to tell me that at some point SolidWorks will abandon the Parasolid kernel and migrate over to ACIS.

P.S. Very few of the original team is still at SolidWorks. This is not uncommon for a company that is purchased by a larger entity.

 

[BBJT]

Not that any of this has a hill of beans as far as what cad package someone should buy but why would SW abandon Parasoild and migrate to ACIS? ACIS in my opinion stinks. Who uses it? Mechanical Desktop? Iron CAD? Oh boy.

BBJT CSWP

 

[bhorton]

that payne really knew how to make pro/e a "payne" to use

 

[RawheadRex]

Re- Parasolid vs. ACIS

FYI as I understand things, Dassault (SW parent entity) recently purchased Spatial (maker of the ACIS kernel). I don't know what the strategy of the move was but it isn't too far of a stretch in my mind to suspect that a change in modeling kernels won't happen at some point in the next couple of years (or sooner perhaps?).

The move might have something to do with the fact that EDS Unigraphics "owns" the Parasolid kernel, Autodesk is apparently moving toward developing their own (MDT and Inventor are based on ACIS as I understand things), and obviously PTC has their own proprietary kernel as well. One might reason that Dassault/SolidWorks purchased Spatial so as not to be at the mercy of their competitors. I'm not an MBA but it seems to make sense.

Also, Mr. Hirschtick is currently part of the hierarchy of Dassault-proper since leaving SolidWorks. It appears that he was "kicked upstair" as it were.

 

[SBaugh]

Dassault Systems beleives heavily into 3D modeling and they believe everyone should be using it. So I think they are just trying to help the Kernel, and I don't think SW will ever go ACIS...What would the advantage be? Nothing!!

Besides Dassault System is getting royality checks out the Wazuu for owning that Kernel, plus SW and other companies and software. So what do they care about competetion They own most of it if not they are at least getting paid for it some how.

Regards, Scott Baugh, CSWP
credence69@REMOVEhotmail.com

http://www.3dmca.com

http://home.insightbb.com/~scott.baugh/