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AgeXVII

Electrical
May 8, 2012
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So here is my predicament... I recently graduated in December 2011 and got hired at an Electrical Contracting business and it is a small business which I do not mind but they hired me as a project manager. Again not a big deal because they said they really wanted another EE on staff (there is only one other guy here that is a EE) so they could try to bid and take on more SCADA/PLC projects. I really like the engineering side of the job when I get to program PLC's and do wiring diagrams etc., but there has been basically zero training. If I have questions the other EE, who was here as an electrician for 7 or 8 years before getting his degree, says "that is what I need to figure out" or "you are the man for the job" instead of actually trying to help me figure out what I am doing. They did hand me a "student guide to estimating handbook" and said go for it and read that in my spare time to help figure out some of the ropes but I am finding that I could almost care less about the pre-bid meetings and estimating stuff.

I have been applying for other more design oriented jobs and even some software engineering positions but I am looking for some advice on A) what is a good way to go about asking for time off to go to an interview if one arises? (Another company contacted me to talk about a job and then called my references as well.) B) Is it true most engineering jobs are heading more toward project managers anyway and a better move would be to try to stick it out and learn what I can?

I do get some chances to use my engineering skills that I went to school for, but like I said making an excel spread sheet and trying to get suppliers to give me updated prices to come up with a bid just isn't my cup of tea...
 
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In a nutshell, embedded engineers (like me) write code, just like every other programmer. The difference between us and desktop code guys is we are VERY close to the hardware. You must know how to set up a processor's internals, their peripherals, at times how to "bit-bang" an external device, create bootloaders (which always means at least a smattering of assembly), etc. You become quite intimate with the development environment and how it pertains to your specific family of processors... setting up memory maps is a given, for example. Optimization techniques include both common and vastly different ones than on a desktop... fitting a large amount of functionality into 4kB of codespace takes a different mindset than when you have 4GB.

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Sounds like a good time to me :p thanks for the information I will look more into it. I found a few companies before I took this job I am at who were looking for "entry level embedded systems/software engineers" but when I applied and even interviewed for a few of them they had decided they wanted to hire someone who didn't require any training and was ready to be put into the fish tank to help code. They ended up not hiring anyone and reposted the job advertisement as "3-5 yrs experience in this or closely related field."

Any ideas where to/how to find more entry level positions for similar jobs? The one who had flown me out to interview was a really cool place but it went down hill when I said I had very very little linux experience and did not have free time to do any coding on my own. They were really turned off to the fact I did not spend my time outside of work coding for fun but I was also in the middle of working full time while I searched for a engineering career so I really had no free time from graduating to job searching so no big loss with their F.O.A.D letter.
 
Well, if you haven't done any embedded programming and are unwilling/unable to do so in your free time, they would be taking on a large burden by hiring you. You need to show them you can handle the type of work as it IS different than creating a little GUI using Visual Studio on a desktop.

Dan - Owner
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Age, shoot me an email through my website.

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
Quillin Engineering, LLC
 
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